Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

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Just a couple things from El Clásico. I personally do not care much for these games but I have to admit this was an entertaining match.

The brazucas, Marcelo, and Casimiro tried their best to hurt Messi. Marcelo deliberated elbowed Messi, which left him bloody. Casimiro who lunges in his attacks should see a red card nearly every game. A couple of thugs from the favelas who probably would've ended up in prison or dead if they didn't play futbol.

And speaking of thugs, Sergio Ramos. Okay, I understand he has scored crucial games for Real but this guy is absolute trash as a defender. I read somewhere he has picked up over 20 red cards in his career. I understand you're a defender, you're going to pick up cards in your career but over 20? What a terrible defender. And this wasn't the first time he went after Messi. I sense he tried to pull a Goikoetxea, so he could into some godlike figure for the Madrid fans by seriously injuring Messi.

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Other European news.
Another beautiful goal for Dybala. He's getting better since he has been healthy. Beautiful movement and shot. He's got his new contract and is playing with loads of confidence.

I feel a bit bad for Icardi. I read he scored the first away hat-trick since 01 in the Serie A. I'd like to see him at a club where he could play in European futbol. Maybe he ends up at Atletico after this season if they sell Griezmann but I am not a major fan of players moving to a new league during a World Cup year(That is if we go).


Another clean sheet for Rulli. I believe this was #10 of the season for him.
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Rojo suffered an ACL tear(I believe it was an ACL) and will be out for a long time. Most ACL injuries take about a year to fully recover. I know some people try between 6-8 months but that is pushing it. Look at El Tigre, he had tore his ACL and tried to rush back and lost a couple of important years of his career where he bounced around till he found his form again in Monaco.

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For those who do not follow the league at home, keep your eye on Sebastián Driussi of River. He has played at the Sub level and scored a wonderful chilena in the Sub 17's some years back. He has formed a nice partnership with Alario. He has scored quite frequently for River in recent memory. Both Alario and Driussi will perhaps be in Europe sooner than later.

 

BadaBing will appear in 3....2......1..... posting gifs and stats. You're in a world of trouble ASF.

 

In time like these, he'd be busy partying all night.

 

Messi ---- general tribute.

 

Well guys, that's it. Fressi did it. Last post with my account. Farewell!

For my next incarnation, I'll set the bar higher: score a winner against Brazil in an official match.

 

He already did that in 2005.

 

Lol....you don't need to change your account....it is all in fun. We like having you here.

I, for one, will be crying tears of joy when Messi-Dybala-Icardi lead us to World Cup glory in 2018, God-willing, with the final against Italy.

 

I forgot to mention, Chucky Ferreyra is the leading goal scorer in the Ukrainian PL, he's scored 11 in 10 games. I am sure some bigger leagues will come knocking soon, and please, stay the hell away from England this time.

 

You nailed it.

 

That elbow by Marcello, reminds me of Maradona getting elbowed by Terry Butcher and Messi came back with vengeance just like Diego did.

 

Major NT-tournament sf and final matches (WC, EU/CA)

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

Messi 11 (2 + 5 + 4) out of 13 team goals in 8 games = 85% importance (+ 2 SO goals and 1 miss)
Maradona 5 (2 + 1 + 2) out of 6 team goals in 5 games = 83% importance (+ 1 SO goal)
Platini 6 (3 (1 pen) + 1 + 2) out of 8 team goals in 4 games = 75% importance (+ 1 SO goal)
G.Müller 7 (7 + 0 + 0) out of 10 team goals in 4 games = 70% importance
Pele 11 (6 + 3 + 2) out of 17 team goals in 4 games = 65% importance
Xavi 6 (1 + 4 + 1) out of 10 team goals in 6 games = 60% importance
Zidane 6 (5 (3 pen) + 0 + 1) out of 11 team goals in 7 games = 55% importance (+ 1 SO goal)
Ronaldo 10 (6 + 2 + 2) out of 19 team goals in 8 games = 53% importance (+ 1 SO goal)
Romario 4 (3 + 0 + 1) out of 8 team goals in 3 games = 50% importance (+ 1 SO goal)
Cruyff 1 (0 + 1 + 0) out of 2 team goals in 2 games = 50% importance

Still waiting Messi to have the help when it matters, that Maradona got once and Pele multiple times.

 

This is incorrect. Messi's first-ever match against us was in 2006 - a post-World Cup friendly in London in which he did not score.

Messi has scored and won against Brazil - in friendly matches (2010 and 2012), but no official match-winning goals.

 

Unlike club friendlies, nt friendlies are official games as they are FIFA regulated. Messi has 6 official goals vs Brazil, first two coming in 2005 in SA/WC u20, and 4 in senior level.








You wont find better individual goal highlights in ARG-BRA match ups.

 

I am aware - I was at MetLife in 2012. A great game with goals scored against our U-23.

My point was that the statement by Pipiolo (in response to Pipinogol's expressed hope that Messi will one day score a winning goal against Brazil in an official match) already occurred in 2005 is incorrect, as Messi's first senior-level match vs. Brazil did not happen until 2006.

The last Argentine players who scored winning goals against us in an official match were Riquelme and Crespo - in a 3-1 home victory in June 2005 against us in WCQ for 2006. This is the last occasion Argentina defeated Brazil in an official match - not a friendly, not a Superclássico, not a youth/juvenile-level game.

 

No it wasn't as it was an official match. What you mean is in a competitive (senior) game.

 

In other words - the ones that matter.

 

In senior level yes.

 

Youth World Cups matter.

 

Rumors circulating from Brunati is that Sampa will attempt a 3-3-1-3 system with Argentina!

 

What is Maradona and Bilardo's problem? Why are they now after Sampaoli? They have had their time in the sun --- should just shut up now.

Hopefully Sampaoli cleans house --- it would be no good to have a coach who keeps on calling the same players.

 

Probably cause he doesnt view them as God like figures & doesnt give a crap about what they say/think.

Remember these guys are all about having some sort of influence somewhere & it seems like Sampa doesnt bow to their ideas

 

I am curious in seeing who Sampa will call up. I think all of us were fed up with Masche and Biglia in the midfield set up the way it was(I think we were just fed up of both of them, period). There is perhaps a bit more optimism from many of us. There is still work to be done in a short period of time. We just need to take care of our home matches and at worst we will be in the playoff vs NZ. Maybe this will give Sampa a couple more games under his belt but I'd rather just collect all 6 points at home and try to nab away points in Uruguay or Ecuador and qualify automatically.

I watched few of Sevilla's games this season and they were impressive. Granted they were much better the first half of the season but at their best, they were thrilling to watch. Tomorrow they have a match vs Celta de Vigo, which is managed by another Argentino in Eduardo Berizzo who plays progressive futbol so it will be an interesting clash.

I just hope Sampa has a list ready for the friendlies.

 

They won't matter much once Messi's international career ends - just as the fact that Youth World Cups won't be on the minds of Argentine fans when the current generation leaves the NT scene, with its title drought (as they weren't went Batistuta, Crespo, etc., left the NT scene).

Youth titles are great - but senior-level NT achievements are what really matter.