Argentina : World cup 2018 Russia discussion

Yes

 

Oh. Then it's a joke.

 

Well, to be honest, assist rules are vague.

Nobody counts those 2 assists for Messi against South Korea in 2010 WC where his free kick led to an own goal and where his shot hit the post for a tap-in for Higuain, although FIFA had changed the rules prior to that WC. Previously, those would have counted as assists.

Similarly, Messi did not credit for the assist against Greece where he pretty much dribbled past 2 players and shot which the goalie saved, and Palermo scored the rebound.

In previous WC’s, that would have counted as an assist as well.

Regardless, Messi’s shot against France did create the goal.

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Overall, this World Cup is making me appreciate our 2014 Run much more. We really were very, very close.

 

Just because it's not entirely intentional doesn't mean the goal would've happened without him.

 

I took a couple of screenshots it's somewhere towards the end of the France game thread. Di Maria crossed,to Meza,from the right endline & did what he should have done, kept running towards the net. His (RIGHT!!) leg got in the way of Fazio who is quite literally diving forward to head the ball.

Fu(king depressing, this is as bad to me as 2010 & the complete loss of opportunity primarily due to managerial incompetence.

We all know sampaoli, like all his predecessors, is limited in who he WANTS TO INCLUDE on the final squad, given people he is forced to pick, but up 2-1 & insisting with false 9 stuff.

Inexcusable.

 

So it was meza who missed it?

 

Can't say I remember that moment with Meza / Fazio.

 

Sampoli has had his contract terminated. Here we go again, and the next manager is ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

 

You guessed it, Frank Stallone.

 

Doesn't matter really, he'll only be in the job for 2 months.

 

Does it mean top assist maker of all of them put together or assist maker of each of them separately?

 

Yeah I was confused of the caption because KDB has the most assist this WC with 3. I think it meant having the most assist in all those three competitions put together, which is incredible if it's true.

 

They are saying De Bruyne had 2; Messi also had 2, along with a host of other players.

http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/4/statistics/assists

https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/stats

So what they are saying that Messi is the only player in history who has been the top assister in a single edition of the World Cup; also, in a single edition of a Copa America/Euro/African Cup/Asian Cup; and then also in a single edition of the Champions League.

Messi is also the greatest dribbler of all World Cups combined, and 2nd best dribbler at this tournament at 5.7 dribbles per game — behind only Hazard.

Not that all this matters much, but it is what it is.

 

weird, i got my 3 assists from here
http://www.worldfootball.net/assists/wm-2018-in-russland/

I think yours is correct as yours have more credible sources. It's impressive to be the top assister in a single edition of each tournament although having only 2 assist for a top assister is low

 

Personally, if Messi had onky 1 assist and 1 goal in the 4 world cups he has played in, I would have been happy. As long as both had been in the 2014 final.

Watching Mbappe yesterday I thought of the 2096 world cup. We had a player in our squad who was younger than Mbappe, and much, much better. And do you inow what that player was doing during our quarter final with Germany, yes that's right, he was sitting on the subs, where he remained as we were knocked out. I think that is symbolic of Argentine football, missed opportunities and the wrong decisions. Sigh.

 

I believe some of our biggest flaws is that we look too much at our past, if it was for euphoria or despair, we need to finally move on from our past and bring on something that we can look forward to. We need to stop chasing ghosts, it is time for us to build for the future. I no longer care about what happened in 2006, 2010,2014 and 2018. We need to move on from these failures and not continue to harp on these moments on what if. I don't know why we continue to bring it up. I mean, how many times can we talk about the same story, when we know how the story ends? If we play the what if we game, we should've won every single World Cup since 1990. But that's not how reality works.

We have talented group of players that are in front of us. We need to focus on them and hopefully we can win something meaningful in their cycle. I am hopeful that we will.

 

I think after a world cup everyone gets a bit whimsical and remembers world cups of the past, but you're right, time to move on.

 

Pogba and the whole French team singing Kante stopped Messi.

Here is how Kante stopped Messi:

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You guys are really grasping at straws... France beat Argentina and could have probably should have scored more. Its true, Argentina scored 3 goals, but they were on 3 isolated plays. Argentina's world cup was a disaster guys, we let in 9 goals in 4 games, we never had an idea of play, we couldn't beat Iceland, we needed a winner from Marcos Rojo to beat Nigeria... I've said it once and I'll say it again: Argentina has nothing to be proud of in this world cup, everything was horrible, the coach, the defenders, the midfield, the defenders, the goalkeeper, the sportsmanship, the directors... Not one thing to rescue from this world cup so I'm not sure why some posters are analyzing things and going on about Messi getting two assists... who cares? Argentina was an absolute disgrace this tournament, the worst world cup in my lifetime, and probably the worst since 1958

 

Plus he got pushed off balance...