Are there any PAID online streaming sites? if not, why isnt there one??

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by Daei_10, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    with so many people around the world wanting to watch the game, how come there isnt a company that makes a site that collects payments and shows games streaming with good quality and no ads??

    all these free streaming sites get annoying, hard to find some games, or the signal breaks up...there are ads, its bad quality...sites get taken down...etc.....u would think it would be a great idea to have a site that is legit and has rights to all the games and leagues and you can just pay monthly or yearly and just stream with ease and no bs to deal with.

    kinda like ESPN 3 but with alot more games and somethign anyone can get in any country.
     
  2. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    damn this forum used to be informative, no one has an answer?
     
  3. Lou Costello

    Lou Costello New Member

    Mar 3, 2012
    http://www.livesport.tv/
    You can subscribe to different packages.
    Serie B, Argentina, Brazil and MLS are not available in the US.
    The video and audio quality of the South American games is not great.
    I subscribed to the Dutch package for a while and it was pretty good.
     
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  4. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for that....but it seems like its not the main leagues like EPL, Serie A, la liga, etc...

    oh well thanx for trying anyway
     
  5. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ...probably because tv companies wouldn't pay so much for tv rights if people could just watch games cheaply online.

    It'd be an interesting idea perhaps for coverage of leagues in countries where no tv rights are sold, e.g. smaller countries could sell their rights online for viewing outside countries who have a tv deal with them.

    The problem would be whether there'd be enough people willing to pay even a small fee to watch Turkish or Australian football in Norway or Portugal, to make it worthwhile.
     
  6. LoveModernFootball

    LoveModernFootball New Member

    Oct 14, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm really sorry they don't make it more convenient for you to steal and watch the show for free.
     
  7. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United FC (f***ing CHAMPIONS)
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    That's the problem here. MLS would get most, if not all of my attention if there was a team close enough to me to drive and watch, but there isn't. And cable companies operate so damned regionally that it's tough to get a lot of matches weekly, even with FSC and GOLTV. AFAIK there's no Sunday Ticket package (every NFL game) for any European or South American football league. OTOH, most UEFA countries are small enough areawise that there's a club nearby, so people just go to the matches.
     
  8. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Sports need to get with the times. Much like the movie and television industry is finally getting on board with Hulu and Netflix, if they wan't us to stop trying to get pirated feeds of their games, then they should provide us with a means to pay for them online. MLS and Major League Baseball already does this to much success. Time to get in the 21st century bitches!
     
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  9. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Does any (subscription) TV company allow internet viewers to pay to watch their content online without taking out a subscription?

    You have Sky in the UK, for example, paying several hundred million pounds for the rights to show premier league games. They only pay that amount because people who want to watch the games will have to subscribe to a tv package. If people could instead watch games online, they'd lose millions through people watching online rather than subscribing.

    The extra revenue gained through allowing online subscribers would be easily wiped out by the money lost through the far lower value of tv rights.
     
  10. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Well for the longest time Showtime had Dexter and Weeds on Netflix, but they didn't renew. I guarantee they got money, and new fans for their shows from that venture. Now they don't only make money from subscriptions. They also make money from DVD sales and with the new fans they garnered, DVD sales might rise. It's so easy.

    Look at HBO GO. HBO runs a dual subscription model, wherein you're automatically subscribed to their online content which is always there. Everything HBO's ever made is there. They're the biggest subscription company in the world, and yet they found a way to make it work with their subscriber model. Simple.

    But the biggest problem that I have with sports is that, unlike MLS, you have no way except for torr*nts, to get past contests in any legal manner. The only thing you can do is wait two or three years and it MIGHT come up on ESPN Classic. The UFC, makes all of their fights available on DVD. This is very very easy. People want to have things for memorial. They know this, yet they make it impossible for us to get it. Especially with the tech available. They can find new ways to profit from this, I know they can. The model is fluid.
     
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  11. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That (HBO) sounds like you get online access if you subscribe.

    It also sounds like they don't let you view live transmissions. The sports equivalent would be being able to watch football matches after they've finished, not live games.

    And live games really are the key to sports broadcasters. People pay big money each month to watch live sport, which is why the rights go for such high values.

    Maybe there is a market for people being able to download a Man Utd v Chelsea game two days/weeks/years after it was played, but that isn't really what the tv companies are trying to protect. They just want to avoid people sitting at home watching the content they pay to produce for free (or even people who'd just pick and choose their own team's games if they could get them online, rather than subscribing)
     
  12. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    No, as soon as the show is broadcast on HBO, it's available on HBO Go. They're simultaneous. Sometimes it's available on HBO Go before it's on HBO. The difference with sports is that, unless you have a DVR and space or a tv tuner, if you miss a game and they don't rebroadcast it, it's done for you. With the EPL, you can't even get highlights anywhere. I mean good 5 to 10 minute hightlights. The EPL doesn't provide it and they take them down whenever they're posted. Granted with the FSC deals, there are rebroadcasts regularly, but not all sports are like that.

    What I don't get, is if it's live tv only that they're trying to protect, then what's the harm in providing a way to view them online afterwards? Major League Baseball does this. They have a site very similar (and in the days of MLSNet, it was the exact same video setup) to what MLS has on MLSLive. I was able to follow the World Baseball Classic as well as the first part of the MLB season that year. It's extra money, so why do they spit on it? Bc other sports are also trying to protect their archives and support support ESPN Classic, which is a channel that needs to turn into a website. ESPN Classic, as a concept, became outdated once bandwidth capabilities enabled us to keep massive archives online.

    Then there's ESPN360, but you can't pay for it. You have to have the right ISP for it. And my apartment pays for my cable service. So I won't split my cable and internet just bc of ESPN360 and their ridiculousness. That's partly a Time Warner problem, bc they tend to be on the outside on things like this, but they came to terms with HBO and HBO Go eventually. ESPN360 has been around longer so it makes me wonder what's up with ESPN.
     
  13. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Isn't it still only available to subscribers?

    With overseas content, it's hard to be sure as I've never really gone into how rights are sold, but here at least, there are various packages that get sold, one of which is to show highlights.

    The thing is, highlights don't get repeated here (actually not strictly true as they are re-shown in the early hours of the following day), so technically there is no reason why they couldn't be re-sold online, after the broadcaster has stopped showing them.

    One problem with that is that the premier league doesn't produce any highlights. Currently they are a BBC production, so it would have to involve the BBC re-selling the highlights, or letting them be viewed for free.

    The BBC isn't actually allowed to do that as it doesn't have the rights to broadcast outside the UK.

    As it is, currently they are only able to show (even in the UK) highlights on demand for games played on Sunday, not the Saturday ones, due to rights issues.


    The question more is a case of whether it would be feasible to sell highlights rights separate from live rights to the USA (and elsewhere). Broadcasters in the USA may pay more for exclusive rights (even if they have no intention of showing highlights) than thought likely if they sold live and highlights rights separately.

    And that's really what it comes down to - money. If they got an offer that made them think it worthwhile to sell online rights to a USA only streaming site, they would.
     
  14. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    This is the only drawback. By itself the cost of HBO Go is basically the cost of renting HBO every month, which isn't much. It's not much more than Netflix or Hulu. But, and this is the big but, you can't get it without having cable. There's no way to order HBO if you don't already have basic cable. Now my apartment pays for my basic, so it's not a big deal to me. If I had ESPN 360 and I could somehow get HBO Go without cable, I wouldn't ever watch tv, I'd just watch those 4 streaming avenues on my XBox. But, tying HBO Go to cable subscription is HBO's way of protecting the cable model. Bc all of their money doesn't come from us subscribers, it also comes from the cable companies.

    That explains alot. It made no sense that you cannot seem to find highlights of EPL matches ANYWHERE. Very frustrating. It seems like a pretty antiquated model for a league with so much reach.
     
  15. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If you want the real info, just email them and ask then why it's not possible to be able to view highlights online overseas, even for a fee, bearing in mind overseas tv companies might not show highlights.
     
  16. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    On FSC - don't they have a weekly highlights show for EPL?
     
  17. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    I mean on the net.
     
  18. Blue Lou

    Blue Lou Member

    Nov 13, 2006
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  19. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    a broadcast is divided up by rights. Streaming rights are one of them and they are regional. You're welcome to buy them and you can charge to stream games. problem is internet streaming is not that economically viable. The ad revenue for internet isn't close to what you get on tv.

    As for the whole get with the times things. People need to grow up with that. Content cost millions to produce. Some production company be it sky, espn, or whatever network, pays for all of it, cameras, trucks, cameramen, satellites. They aren't going to do it unless networks pay and networks only pay because they can get advertising revenue. And revenue for tv slaughters the ad revenue you get in a banner add on a laptop screen. It's an economic reality. The best hope is that miraculously someone in you country decides to take the stupid gamble of buying up all streaming rights for the leagues you want (not gonna happen cause most networks want them just in case, and buy them even if they don't use them), then makes one website, and charges a subscription. But it's s massive risk of money so i wouldn't hold my breath.
     
  20. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    20 posts and nobody mentions foxsoccer2go (formerly fox soccer.tv)?

    I've been paying for it for two years now. It's great. Shows all the games FoxSoccer carries on FoxSoccer and FoxSoccer Plus channels. The FSC 'headliner' live games on Sat and Sun morning are blacked out until 9pm PT though. But if you have FSC you've already seen those anyway.

    Of course this means it's EPL, a sprinkling of championship, Champions League (almost every game) and rugby.
     
  21. atomicbloke

    atomicbloke Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    If they had a similar thing for Fox Deportes with Copa Libertadores games (which are shown on the TV channel), I would gladly pay. I would also pay if GOL TV had streaming service for their Argentine Primera games.

    My current residential situation makes it difficult for me to get a cable or satellite subscription, but I can buy online subscriptions, no matter the cost. I am sure there are lots of people like me. How come the content providers don't see a market in this? They can charge a huge premium for it to make up for a smaller volume. I am sure people will pay, since followers of non-mainstream leagues tend to be more focussed type of fan and not the casual channel flipping fans, and will be willing to pay for a high cost subscription.
     
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  22. warqula

    warqula New Member

    Jun 11, 2012
    Lublin
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
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    Shabs100 New Member

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  24. Shabs100

    Shabs100 New Member

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  25. Beast_Ed

    Beast_Ed Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    Boston MetroWest
    Is there any possible way to watch the Gold Cup without listening to Gus Johnson?
     

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