Andrew Yang will be your next president

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    WRONG! Nance is setting this all up in her favor. :thumbsup:
     
  2. Boloni86

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  3. ceezmad

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    I get to beat @Boloni86 to this one.



    They even have the numbers in a different article.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/2020-democratic-presidential-candidates-ranked/index.html


    But upon further review, maybe just a timing thing, this happens when I try to beat Boloni

    1179916004396322816 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  4. JohnR

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    Ummm, the POTUS race already has a a candidate whose supporters launch conspiracy theories about how the media mistreats him. One would seem to be enough.
     
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  5. sitruc

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    Rep for the "But upon further review." The gang can be worse than the bros especially since there is more alt-right inside of it.
     
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Colbert impressed with Yanger's skateboarding skillz (starts around 1 minute mark)

     
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  7. argentine soccer fan

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    Here is an update on how a Universal Basic Income pilot program is working in Stockton, California so far:

    https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019...sic-income-pilot-economic-empowerment/599152/

    This is relevant to Yang's proposal. Critics of the program worry that it will backfire, as people will not have an incentive to look for work, or may spend the money irresponsibly. Those are valid concerns, but so far in Stockton it does not appear to be a problem.

     
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  8. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    He's not impressive. Certainly not for his age. I'm older and better, today, right now.

    Most of his generation never did anything for real but ride around scraping the paint off stair rails and chipping concrete benches. Five'll get you twenty he's never been in a bowl or half-pipe in his life. Probably couldn't pick Tony Alva out of a police lineup.
     
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  9. xtomx

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    The "not have an incentive to look for work" is bullcrap.

    It is the same racist nonsense talking point going back to St. Reagan's "welfare Queen" (who went to jail), while corporations, oil companies, and the rich in general continue to suckle at the government teats, as they always have.

    The problem with Yang's idea is that it provides $12,000 a year to the 2/3 rds of the country who do not need it and it replaces much of the current safety net. It is a waste of money.

    Done strategically, it could be successful. As Yang proposes it, it will not be successful.
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    #910 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Oct 6, 2019
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    Ironically street skating accelerated this 80s icon's downfall until he was picked out of a lineup:

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  11. Auriaprottu

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    See? TA never killed anybody.
     
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  12. roby

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    Bah....back in my day i'da crushed all of you! :cool:

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  13. Auriaprottu

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    I know a girl who roller skated park pools. She did Roller Derby for several years, too.

    I never could roller skate worth a shit, and was always jealous of that bounce thing y'all do
     
  14. roby

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    I found that roller skating @ Riverside Park in Agawam, Ma was a great place to get dates. It was much better than ♫ standing on the corner watching all the girls go by. :whistling:
     
  15. superdave

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  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    My BIL always gets the cool gadgets.
    When I was in HS he got me a pair of rollerblades which only hockey players and Olympians really used back then. I slapped them on and said "this will be just like roller skates" I took them down the steep hill that led to the paved path to the elementary school. Didnt think of using the rubber brake in the back. I hit the hump where the street met the path and I must've flown 5 feet in the air and right on my tuchis. Luckily landed on the grass.

    That wasn't as bad as the injuries we'd sustain racing Pathmark shopping carts down the same hill as yoots. :D
     
  17. argentine soccer fan

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    I don't think it's bullcrap. A society that functions well should have the type of safety net that encourages the acrobats to get back to the trapeze - so to speak - rather than to stay on the safety net for life. That is the purpose of the safety net. Giving people cash has to be looked at and studied within that context. So, I am encouraged by the pilot program in Stockton, which shows that properly applied it can work.

    I agree that Yang's proposal has to be fine-tuned, but it is an intriguing alternative to deal with the problem of those who need help. Especially considering that in today's brave new world in which technological changes are so much more prevalent, and people are constantly needing to adapt and get new skills, more and more people will at times need some type of a safety net.
     
  18. Q*bert Jones III

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    We've built our entire society on the notion that you don't eat if you don't work. But in the near future, there aren't going to be nearly enough jobs for everyone to work. So UBI is not just about safety nets, we actually need to incentive people NOT to work.
     
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  19. argentine soccer fan

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    I'm willing to not work, but I need to have something to do. All the government has to do to incentivize me is to provide me an environment where I can play futbol and dance tango whenever I feel like it.
     
  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I got an old deck out back that needs to be ripped out. All the chicharron & empanadas you can eat. :D
     
  21. luftmensch

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    I like the way Buckminster Fuller put the issue. Idealistic? Yeah, maybe, but it also makes a lot of sense. People tinkering around with their passions sometimes produce really cool shit even when they aren't obviously working toward anything in particular.

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  22. ceezmad

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    Saudi Arabia does this, they just import (with thigh restrictions) poor immigrants to do all the work.


    Which is another question of UBI.

    Will just citizens be able to collect UBI?
     
  23. ceezmad

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    I mean, I do not know about the end of the quote "think about what ever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along & told them they had to earn a living"

    In historical terms, if you didn't you starved to death.

    In modern times, there are only so many years that you can live off your parents.
     
  24. JohnR

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    Surely citizens only. It would be a political non-starter otherwise (if it is not already), plus that would be illogical.
     
  25. ToMhIlL

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    Well, work still needs to be done. Yesterday I was home because my dryer stopped working. The guy came in and replaced a part and it's all good. But if no one is actually working for a living, whaddayagonnado when the pipes freeze and you need a plumber or you want to build a new deck for your house (with your extra 12 grand)? Unless you're good enough to do these things yourself (which most of us aren't) there won't be anyone left.

    It's nice to have poets and artists, but it's tough to make a living doing that. We can't have everyone as a poet or an artist. Someone has to sit at home and drink beer and watch TV all day, otherwise society, as we know it, will crumble.
     

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