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Discussion in 'Brazil NSR' started by Mengão86, May 22, 2015.

  1. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Agreed with Mathaus but still wasn't expecting them too. Seems a bit desperate.
     
  2. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If he hits the market, I'd gamble on Dee Ford.
     
  3. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Me too.
     
  4. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dee Ford would be great if he hits the market. I agree the Lions look desperate here, but looking at this, I don't see a great alternative. Do we really want to be locked into reaching on Davenport, Hubbard, or Landry in the 1st round, becaise that's the only other way I see that realistically going down if we let Ansah go.
     
  5. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In the draft, I think you could get good value out of Arden Key.
     
  6. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Key has pretty brutal question marks around whether he loves football and his exceptional inconsistency. I'm not sa fan at all. He has a decent speed rush, but from what I've seen he gets controlled pretty easily by OTs in run support and totally lacks power for any kind of bull rush.
     
  7. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    Not saying Alex is great, but where's Kirk Cousins on the list? I thought his receivers were to blame with all of the dropped balls.....



    Crowder #2 in separation, but Kirk wouldn't give him any looks for most of the year....



    No Norman.....
     
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  8. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
     
  9. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    My QB rankings of the big five are something like:
    1. Sam Darnold
    2. Lamar Jackson
    3. Josh Rosen
    4. Baker Mayfield
    -DROP OFF-
    5. Josh Allen
     
  10. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I actually always agree with you about Kirk.

    But someone pointed this out to me. Correct me if I missed the context. But he targeted crowder more than any other reciever, by far.
     

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  11. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah, but that's mostly after Chris Thompson's injury in the NO game. If he's been targeted and not making reception, and we've established Crowder didn't drop hardly any balls, we are looking at mainly inaccurate throws to him, especially since he had a lot of separation on his routes (so we can't say he was blanketed by the defender).
     
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  12. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  13. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    What kind of analysis is this? In both plays show for each QB, Case was under pressure and playing in the playoffs. On the second play, the CB was sitting on the route. Even if he threw it early, the CB would break on the ball. For Kirk, he had a perfect pocket on both plays and attacked the weakest links on the Vikings defense.
     
  14. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  15. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Vikings win this offseason. Richardson and Cousins make this team even better than it was, and at this point I just don't see the Lions able to compete this year.
     
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  16. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Too early to tell.

    Training camp and preseason injuries are gonna turn the league on it's head again, watch.
     
  17. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The Cardinals are to quarterbacks what the Ravens are to receiving options. Their fan base is so thirsty that they are bombarding Eric Ebron with messages for him to come to Baltimore.
     
  18. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think Kirk moves the needle very much. There are other teams that have done good work in FA.
     
  19. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  20. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Probably and you already know my opinion about kirk.
     
  21. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #6546 MatthausSammer, Mar 18, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2018
    I know you would rather have Keenum, but I just don't see him having the kind of year he had last year. It feels fluky, and it feels like he just had the best year of his career where everything played out right and he rode the momentum. Kind of like that one year Fitzpatrick had with the Jets. Credit to Case; he had a great year, but give me Kirk. I know who Kirk is; he's a 12th-18th best QB in the league. With Case, it's a mystery box; he could be great, or he could regress to the guy he's been for the rest of his career. I know you and @Mengão86 aren't big Kirk guys, but I think it's an upgrade.
     
  22. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I see the logic with comparing keenum to fitz but I can't go that far. I can't wait to watch Keenum with denver , I have a feeling he will kill it. We should be having mengo back on at 830 this week , just waiting for giff to confirm. We will probably end up talking about Kirk. I'm glad you are trying to talk me into Kirk because I am persuadable. That Sheldon Richardson signing made that kirk pill go down a lot easier. You starting to panic? a few of our lions subs are saying i'm being over dramatic , some agree with me. I thought we'd see something out of the box now , this shit is same ol, same ol.
     
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  23. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #6548 MatthausSammer, Mar 18, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2018
    I'm not panicked but I'm disappointed and underwhelmed. You don't build a team with free agency alone; drafts are still important, but the fact we seem to be moving forward into the draft having spent our money on marginal players, Blount, and the Ansah tag and still have a number of holes on this roster is not the way I thought this would go. There seems to be very little urgency with this organization to win now. Stellar draft that addresses holes and this could still be solid, and after a number of okay Quinn drafts I hated but ended up alright I believe in Quinn as a drafter a bit, but i'm very much left scratching my head asking myself what the blueprint is supposed to be. Am I supposed to believe Spence is a starting DT in this league? Am I suposed to be okay with seemingly locking in a DT, a RB, and a LG in the draft no matter who's on the board? That seems like pretty terrible process to me.

    The one thing I can say is getting no one is better than an egregious overpay. If Quinn was going around trying to get big targets and no one bit because no one wanted to come to Detroit, then that is what that is unfortunately.
     
  24. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    @Catracho_Azul ready to get your burgundy and gold Guice jersey? ;)
     
  25. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I really like Guice for the Lions, but I am very willing to sacrifice him to the Redskins in order to take down a competitor for Vea.
     

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