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Discussion in 'Brazil NSR' started by Mengão86, May 22, 2015.

  1. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil





     
  2. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Pederson made some odd playcalls during the game for sure. Why are you throwing a backward pass to Nelson Agholar? He isn't shifty or a burner. Sure, Wentz could have made a better throw, but the playcall was horrendous.
     
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  3. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Talent is an issue with them, but I think some of the disparity has to do with the fact that the Colts probably have had the worst backup QB in the league for many years now. The team isn't as bad as we saw them on Sunday, but Luck certainly elevates their level of play on offense. They didn't have Ryan Kelly, their best OL and the rest of their OL is straight trash.
     
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  4. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @Mengão86 did you see anything out of Jonathan Allen yesterday?
     
  5. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yes, he was impressive. Created quite a bit of pressure inside. Wentz was on the move most of the day. Granted, Jason Peters got hurt, but we had pressure up the middle and occasionally through Lane Johnson, but Wentz had some Romo-esque manuevers in and outside the pocket. He probably made his best throws in those scenarios, to be honest. I see the Eagles oline still being an issue, even with those two tackles (when Peters is healthy). They also didn't get any push in the run game.
     
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  6. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
     
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  8. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I like to subject QBs every now and then to something I call the "Dalton test". Basically the idea is that Dalton is pretty much the epitome of an average NFL starting QB, and if you're worse than him, you're not a guy a franchise can rely upon moving forward. If you're better than Dalton, you can secure your starting spot and your franchise shouldn't be actively trying to replace you. Bradford passes the Dalton test.
     
  9. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I finally get the first pick in the 16 teamer and chose David Johnson and he's out for 2-3 months. My injury luck in fantasy is unreal.
     
  10. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    good win against me in the 12 tm tho
     
  11. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    he really did do that. in the redzone a few times with carr was when i noticed it.
     
  12. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I heard a flaming hot take on this FB group I'm a part of that Frank Gore was a better all-around RB than AP over the course of his career. Pass blocking, receiving, running out of shotgun, ball security, longevity, etc. @Harambe Alvinegro is there truth to that do you think?
     
  13. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have Johnson in one of my leagues too but I think I'm okay anyways.
    The 12 team was rough for me. Hill balled but the rest underperformed.
     
  14. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think so. I've never seen Gore win an nfl game by himself let alone force a team into the playoffs on his back. Adrian Peterson should be remembered for getting Ponder and Tjack to the playoffs which wasn't easy. And Gore is really overrated from a receiving perspective. It's easy to hate on Peterson now but the game was different just 4, 5 years ago for running backs. I was never a huge frank gore guy anyways. His best year was under an o-line far far better than any Peterson ran behind.
     
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  15. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    it's a little bit like saying fred taylor or corey dillon or even bettis was better than barry sanders
     
  16. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Fair enough, just thought I'd ask. I was a little skeptical too, but it was somewhat interesting to consider.
     
  17. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think so either. Those are the only two knocks on AP and most of the time, it had to do with the type of offense that was run.
     
  18. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The comedic timing of @Harambe Alvinegro's hemming and hawing in the spread video over Detroit vs New York was absolute gold lol...

    "Can't believe I'm going to do this... I think I'm going to do this..."

    I'm thinking Come on, don't do it. Don't put your credibility on the line for the freaking Lions. They're bound to disappoint.

    "No I'm not, New York to win, Detroit to cover".

    It was a great little moment.
     
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  19. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I had them circled for sure and the Giants don't even play all that good at home. Me being wrong about the 49ers covering and chargers winning def made me more conservative. And if you looked at that play that injured David Johnson I got pretty excited because that's what I've been asking for from detroits defense. More physicality and besides controlling turnovers the best way to win games is knocking players out of games/intimidation. I'm really looking forward to the game but having to hear about obj for 4 hours whether he plays or not is a little much. You think the lions will win ??? Did you have them beating zona ?
     
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  20. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil



    Disagree with the analysis. The ball on the INT was bad decision and there were a couple of other plays as well. But look at the ball that Kirk tries to force through a tight window, but doesn't have above average arm strength to do it. Not sure who he thought he was trying that throw.
     
  21. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil



    Kirk actually said he was looking at Pryor on this play. Crowder would have been the right decision.







    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907041495227813888

    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907041783284158466

    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907042041510731776

    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907042821466677255

    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907043121997008896

    https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/907043744918241280

    Not a surprise that if Kirk feels the slightest of pressure, this is what results from it. Not sure why more teams don't blitz Kirk. What's funny is the media gave him credit for not being sacked last year and now vs the Iggles, want to blame the o-line. Kirk is only good in the quick timing passing game or when he gets all day to survey the field. Sure, no QB likes pressure in their face, but he's more adversely affected by it than the top 15 QBs in the league. He's mentally weak -- can't shake any adversity.
     
  22. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    People aren't going to get off the Kirk train. They are dug in, cognitive dissonance. I gave up talking about him on the podcast.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yep, I've yet to see anyone in the pro-Kirk camp change their opinion on him. Not only do they not see him for what he is, they try to sell other people on the idea that he's a very good (top 10) QB in this league and there are NO arguments otherwise.
     
  24. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Surprised this guy hasn't been blocked by the Grant Paulsen crew. Funny how they make remarks about other QBs in the league but Kirk is perfection.

     
  25. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

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