All-time Argentina NT XI

I am not sure that these players are voting for an all star team based on accomplishments with the national team, with players who had very limited careers with the national team like Redondo, Ortiz, Veron Sr., Di Stefano etc getting votes. Seems to be a more general all star team of the best players you saw that also played for Argentina.

 

Redondo's career with the Argentine NT was very limited unfortunately, as Passarella blackballed him from his squad from 94 to 98. Bielsa wanted to bring back Redondo but not long after he took over Redondo suffered an injury from which he never recovered.

Also, Larrosa's team consists of the entire WC78 starting side in the final match.

 

My all-time Argentina XI:

Fillol
Zanetti-Perfumo-Passarella-Marzolini
Redondo-Bochini-Pedernera-Maradona
DiStefano-Moreno

Just destroyed your thread

 

1-fillol
2-zanetti
3-marzolini
4-mascherano
5-passarella
6-monti
7-messi
8-sastre
9-di stefano
10-maradona
11-sivori
coach: herrera

 

LOL, Herrera would have a 100 mile restriction order from the Argentine NT. No offense, but you are either clueless or trolling.

 

option 1
what happened?

 

I suppose it was in the best tradition of his favorite country that made mr. Bada Bing 'forgot' a few.

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And no, I didn't leave some out.

 

Herrera's philosophy is the antithesis of how Argentina has played historically. Cesarini, Peucelle, Menotti, Bielsa, Pekerman, are all better options for an Argentine all-time manager.

@Once @argentine soccer fan @msioux75

 

Interestingly, out of all teams only Larossa's was shown in a 4-4-2/4-2-4 shape and the rest were 4-3-3's. I was wondering if 4-3-3 had to be the template (but with freedom to put players anywhere) until I saw his team.

There is some variance in how the teams would function (based on what type of players are in each position) but it's a popular choice!

 

that's all true,
but check my front 3; triple speedy gonzales. let them counter por favor!

 

Minutes of an imaginary selection meeting.


GK: Carrizo or Fillol. Very little to choose between them. Carrizo just gets the nod for innovation.

RB: Zanetti. As much for longevity as anything, and commitment to the national cause.

LB: Marzolini. Automatic choice.

CB: Passarella. Another automatic selection.

CB: Perfumo or Ruggeri. The latter has the World Cup pedigree but Perfumo seems to be preferred by in-country experts, which carries a little more weight.

DM: Real competition here, perhaps more than for any other national team. Monti might have to modify his methods if he wants to stay on the pitch for 90 minutes. Redondo touched the heights with Real Madrid, but may have issues playing with Passarella. Rattin and Nestor Rossi shunned Europe, with Rattin spending his entire career in Argentina. It may help their cause with the selectors. And Mascherano has made well over three times as many appearances for the national team as the others, earning Roy Hodgson’s vote as best player of the 2014 World Cup. Any of these five would be a good choice. With an eye on creativity we will go for Redondo.

5 creative/attacking players. Maradona, Di Stefano and Messi are certainties. And in Latin America so is Moreno. That leaves just one place. Another of the defensive midfielders could be chosen, but Argentina will prefer to trust her attacking instincts. The reputations of Ardiles and Kempes at home are not quite as high as elsewhere, and to a lesser extent the same may be true of Sivori. With Di Stefano and Messi scoring so many goals, there is no need for an out-and-out striker such as Ferreyra or Batistuta. That probably leaves Pedernera and Sastre. The latter’s versatility is an asset that would allow him to play behind the other four magicians. But Pedernera could also play anywhere in midfield or attack and offers that vital understanding with his old Maquina teammates.

 

I don't understand why there is a need for 5 attacking players. Argentina is blessed with so much talent that it's never fun to leave out anyone, but I think it's more interesting to try and create a team that is actually balanced.

There is no need for more than 4 attackers when 3/4 are Maradona, Messi, and Di Stefano. You could rank those 3 of the top 5 forwards/attacking midfielders of all time, and no one would bat an eye. The cherry on top simply have to be the best Argentina striker you can think of. The best one I've ever seen is Batistuta because he could score with both feet and his head. A complete finisher really. Not to mention, your attack will have Redondo feeding it, and two attacking fullbacks as well.

In midfield, I think to provide the base for the attacking 4 to perform their best, and for the fullbacks to push forward, we need a double pivot. Redondo is an almost unanimous choice, and deservedly so because the team needs his playmaking ability to control the midfield and get the ball to the front 4. He should be paired with a defensive player.

MY Argentina XI would be:
GK: Fillol - I don't know many Argentinian GKs, and I think the innovation makes Carizzo a bit overrated. The South American friends that I have all say Fillol, so I'll believe them.
RB: Zanetti
LB: Marzolini
CB: Passarella
CB: Ruggeri
DM: Redondo
DM: Cambiasso/Mascherano - This is the only contention for me. Cambiasso has to be one of the most decorated Argentinians of all time, and a far more complete player than Mascherano. However, I lean towards Mascherano because Redondo is already there, Mascherano defending, engine, and tenacity is a better compliment.
Front 4 Maradona, Di Stefano, Messi, and BAtistuta.

 

Good post. Bochini should also be in the discussion for attacking player, the biggest winner in Copa Libertadores history. And I would add Ayala as a potential partner to Passarella in central defense.

 

GK: Ubaldo Fillol
CB: Oscar Ruggeri
CB: Daniel Passarella
RB: Javier Zanetti
LB: Alberto Tarantini
CM: Fernando Redondo
CM: Diego Simeone
CAM: Diego Maradona
CF: Lionel Messi
CF: Mario Kempes
CF: Gabriel Batistuta​

 

I personally rank him very highly as a specialist. He isn't a box-to-box like Simeone, or someone who can create like Redondo. He is a defensive specialist, and I think the best one in Argentinian history. Whether that makes him worthy of a place in the XI is questionable.

 

All time great, no doubt.

Agree, he is definitely in consideration for a spot in the Argentina all-time starting XI.

 

It comes down to what you like. Personally, I'd pair him with Redondo, but I understand that some prefer more well-rounded players.

I've seen Mascherano played with Alonso though, and I think he'd be the perfect partner for Redondo.

 

Fillol

Zanetti - Perfumo - Passarella - Marzolini

Redondo

Messi - Maradona

Kempes - Batistuta - Di Stefano​