All star teams of 1986 World Cup?

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  1. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This is for euro80, in alphabetical order. Penalty-assists are in parentheses.

    Ceulemans 2
    Haan 2
    H. Müller 2
    Panenka 2
    Schuster 2
    Causio 1
    Graziani 1
    Juanito 1
    Kozak 1
    Masny 1
    Mavros 1
    Naninga 1 (PK)
    Rummenigge 1
    Van der Elst 1 (PK)
    Wijnstekers 1 (PK)
    Wilkins 1
    Zamora 1 (PK)

    Following the planetworldcup website which gives 2 points for a goal and 1 point for an assist, this are the results:

    Allofs 6 points (3 goals)
    Ceulemans 4 points (1 goal + 2 assists)
    Hrubesch 4 points (2 goals)
    Kist 4 points (2 goals)
    Nehoda 4 points (2 goals)
    Panenka 4 points (1 goals + 2 assists)
    Graziani 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Rummenigge 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Wilkins 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
     
  2. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Euro84, penalty assists in parentheses. Sorted in alphabetical order.

    Tigana 3 assists
    Chalana 2
    Elkjaer 2 (2 PK)
    Giresse 2
    Laudrup 2
    Scifo 2
    Arnesen 1
    Battiston 1
    Berggreen 1
    Boloni 1
    Coras 1
    De Greef 1
    Deveric 1 (PK)
    Ferreri 1
    Frasco 1
    Gallego 1 (PK)
    Grun 1
    Magalhaes 1
    Meier 1
    Platini 1
    Rummenigge 1
    Senor 1
    Six 1 (PK)
    Susic 1


    Points:
    Platini 19 points (9 goals + 1 assist)
    Arnesen 7 points (3 goals + 1 assist)
    Elkjaer 6 points (2 goals + 2 assists)
    Domergue 4 points (2 goals)
    Giresse 4 points (1 goal + 2 assists)
    Jordao 4 points (2 goals)
    Maceda 4 points (2 goals)
    Völler 4 points (2 goals)
    Berggreen 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Boloni 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Coras 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Grün 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Tigana 3 points (3 assists)
     
  3. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Euro88 assisters:

    Belanov 2
    Gullit 2
    Klinsmann 2 (1PK)
    Littbarski 2
    Van Basten 2 (1PK)
    Aldridge 1
    Ancelotti 1
    Bakero 1
    Bergomi 1
    Donadoni 1
    Gallego 1
    Heintze 1
    Hoddle 1
    Kieft 1
    R. Koeman 1
    Kuznetsov 1
    Lerby 1
    Lineker 1
    Matthaus 1
    McCarthy 1
    A. Mühren 1
    Protasov 1
    Rats 1
    Vialli 1
    Wouters 1
    Zavarov 1

    Euro88 points:

    Van Basten 12 points (5 goals + 2 assists)
    Protasov 5 points (2 goals + 1 assist)
    Gullit 4 points (1 goal + 2 assists)
    Klinsmann 4 points (1 goal + 2 assists)
    Völler 4 points (2 goals)
    Kieft 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Matthäus 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Rats 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Vialli 3 points (1 goal + 1 assist)
     
  4. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Small correction: Kuznetsov should be dropped from the previous list.


    Euro92 assists:

    Povlsen 3
    Dahlin 2
    R. Koeman 2
    Ingesson 2 (1 PK)
    Rijkaard 2
    Christiansen 1
    Durand 1
    Gullit 1
    Hässler 1
    Helmer 1
    Klinsmann 1
    B. Laudrup 1
    Limpar 1
    Lineker 1
    McCoist 1
    McPherson 1
    Nevin 1 (PK)
    Perez 1
    Sammer 1
    Schwarz 1
    Winter 1

    Dobrovolski assisted himself by drawing a PK and converting it too.

    Povlsen was definitely assist-leader.

    Euro92 points:

    Bergkamp 6 (3 goals)
    Brolin 6 (3 goals)
    Larsen 6 (3 goals)
    Riedle 6 (3 goals)
    Rijkaard 6 (2 goals + 2 assists)
    Hässler 5 (2 goals + 1 assist)
    Eriksson 4 (2 goals)
    Papin 4 (2 goals)
    Klinsmann 3 (1 goal + 1 assist)
    Povlsen 3 (3 assists)
     
  5. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    El Grafico WC'86 Best XI (based on ratings)

    GK:
    Dasaev - USSR - 7,33 (3)
    F.Alves - Uru - 7,25 (4)
    Pfaff - Bel - 6,86 (7)
    Ezaki - Mor - 6,75 (4)
    Zubizarreta - Spa - 6,60 (5)
    Pumpido - Arg - 6,57 (7)
    Mihailov - Bul - 6,50 (4)

    FB:
    Amoros - Fra - 6,71 (7)
    Josimar - Bra - 6,33 (3)
    J.Alberto - Spa - 6,33 (3)

    CB:
    M.Olsen - Den - 7,00 (4)
    Ruggeri - Arg - 6,86 (7)
    Edinho - Bra - 6,80 (5)
    Brown - Arg - 6,71 (7)
    Cuciuffo - Arg - 6,67 (6)
    Bessonov - USSR - 6,67 (3)
    Battiston - Fra - 6,57 (7)
    Kuznetsov - USSR - 6,50 (4)

    DM/CM:
    Yakovenko - USSR - 7,67 (3)
    Fernandez - Fra - 6,83 (6)
    Victor - Spa - 6,80 (5)
    Yaremchuk - USSR - 6,67 (3)
    A.Sousa - Por - 6,67 (3)
    Aleinikov - USSR - 6,50 (4)
    Hodge - Eng - 6,50 (4)

    AM:
    Maradona - Arg - 8,43 (7)
    Arnesen - Den - 7,33 (3)
    Stracham - Sco - 7,00 (3)
    Zavarov - USSR - 6,75 (4)
    Burruchaga - Arg - 6,71 (7)
    C.Manuel - Por - 6,67 (3)
    Michel - Spa - 6,60 (5)
    Lerby - Den - 6,50 (4)

    FW:
    Careca - Bra - 7,20 (5)
    Butragueño - Spa - 7,00 (5)
    Belanov - USSR - 7,00 (4)
    Elkjaer L - USSR - 6,75 (4)
    Laudrup - Den - 6,50 (4)

    Dasaev - Josimar, Ruggeri, M.Olsen, Amoros - Arnesen, L.Fernandez, Yakovenko, Maradona - Butragueño, Careca.
     
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  6. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    According Placar, this is the best XI for WC'70 elected by journalists from 39 countries.

    Banks - Dobias, Shesternev, Moore, Cooper - Beckenbauer, Gerson, Rivelino - Jairzinho, Tostao, Pele
     
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  7. tony-soprano37

    Dec 5, 2008
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    i would have gerd muller above tostao anyday
     
  8. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
    Interesting that Carlos Alberto doesn't make it, given that his reputation is mainly built on that tournament.
     
  9. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Do you know by who it was organized? In another thread I posted this:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...l-advanced-stats.1979881/page-5#post-26961862

    That are different teams as yours.
     
  10. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Sorry, if i don't posted in the correct thread.

    Like Comme said, the 1st thing that called my attention was the inclusion of Dobias x C.Alberto.
    It was a collection called "A Saga da Jules Rimet. A historia das Copas de 1930 a 1970" by Max Gehringer, published by Placar. In the magazine doesn't said whom organized the election.
    The team was similar to DPA.
     
  11. Lucas...

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    Dec 18, 2012
    The Placar, soon after the World Cup, made ​​a all star team of the World Cup with only the votes of Placar journalists.

    Mazurkiewicz (Uruguai); Carlos Alberto (Brasil), Anchetta (Uruguai), Bobby Moore (Inglaterra), Everaldo (Brasil); Clodoaldo (Brasil), Beckenbauer (Alemanha) e Gerson (Brasil); Jairzinho (Brasil), Tostão (Brasil) e Pelé (Brasil)
     
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  12. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Yes, although their ideal team of the tournament was this:
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  13. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    For the 1990 World Cup El Grafico picked this team:
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    The names listed below the starters is the 2nd team.
     
  15. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Also according to the Spanish newspaper of La Prensa in New York, reporters from The Associated Press picked this starting 1990 World Cup team:

    Conejo, Brehme, Des Walker, Baresi, Jorginho, Scifo, Matthaus, Maradona, Michel, Schillaci, Klinsmann.

    Roger Milla was the only unanimous choice for being a sub on the bench. Other players mentioned were Shilton, Ferri, Stojkovic, Skuhravy, Makanaky and Lacatus.
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    [Taken from my personal archive]
     
  16. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
    Difficult to make out, but "Mark Wright's" picture is actually Stuart Pearce.
     
  17. Lucas...

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    Dec 18, 2012
    Goycochea; Tataw, Baresi, Buchwald, Brehme; Hassler, Matthaus, Gascoigne, Maradona; Schillaci, Milla.

    Team of World Cup 1900 according with the brazilian Revista Placar (13/07/1990). There isn't information on how many and which journalists voted. There aren't notes.
     
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  18. Pipiolo

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    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The NYC based Diario La Prensa had something like this:
    Goycoechea
    Bergomi-Baresi-Ruggieri-Brehme
    Matthaus-Rincon-Gascoigne-Maradona
    Milla-Schillacci
     
  19. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    And this was their 2nd team:
    [​IMG]
     
  20. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    I also had the 1st team, and i've been confused, since i had the ratings for all matches.
    So, i calculated by myself and posted (Ranking based on ratings players) like unnoficial.
     
  21. JamesBH11

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    Sep 17, 2004
    I am not so crazy would those ratings as they varied very much from one source to another? So who you should pick and base from?
     
  22. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    In the Best XI (page in blue) it could be read:
    This is the all star team, one for each position and lining up in a 4-4-2, chosed by the journalist group sent by EL GRAFICO. In next page, it will be explained why were picked those players....

    So, it doesn't mention that Team-A not even Team-B were selected for their average ratings.
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Press agency DPA had this for the 1962 World Cup:

    World team:
    Schroif; Djalma Santos, Schnellinger; Zito, Maldini, Masopust; Garrincha, Toro, Vava, Tichy, Leonel Sanchez

    Europe team:
    Schroif; Durkovic, Schnellinger; Solymosy, Maldini, Masopust; Sandor, Scherer, Seeler, Galic, Charlton


    The Italian Corriere dello Sport came to a slightly different team (with some national bias):

    Schroif; Djalma Santos, Schnellinger; Zito, Maldini, Flowers; Garrincha, Sekularec, Albert, Amarildo, Charlton

    Poll about the 34 best players of the world had 6 Italians, 5 Brazilians and 3 Czechoslovakians (other nations had less than 3) so some national bias.

    As addition:

    Before the 1970 World Cup started, the British magazine "World Sports" had a poll.
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    80 journalists from 35 different countries (did not specify further) were asked to make an all-time team. Number of votes in parentheses (maximum is 80, to make that clear...).

    Yashin (69), Djalma Santos (57), Facchetti (38), Bozsik (45), Wright (38), Beckenbauer (44), Matthews (40), Pele (76), Di Stefano (68), Puskas (44), Charlton (37)

    The reserves team was (with 'unlucky' ones to miss out):
    Banks, Nilton Santos, Schnellinger, Masopust, Ocwirk, Moore, Garrincha, Didi, Eusebio, Best, Gento
     
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  24. JamesBH11

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    Sep 17, 2004
    Names in bold are doubtful !

    I think Eusebio made MUCH BETTER case than Wright here (at least he succeeded at both events: UCL and WC) even G,Best would also make his claim there.

    As much as I love Fachetti, N Santos was just more complete and skillful
     
  25. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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