Alfredo Di Stéfano career match reports

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  1. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    Along the same lines as the Johan Cruyff thread, I've decided to create a similar one dedicated to the "Saeta Rubia" or "Blonde Arrow", the man that some consider to be the greatest footballer the world has ever seen. "El Aleman" or "the German", as he used to be called, is regarded by many old-timers in Argentina as one of the top 5 greatest players the country ever produced.

    I have decided to tackle this long term career project utilizing the archives from Argentina and Spain. However, at the moment it will contain gaps due to the inability to access the Colombian archives from when he played at Millonarios. Also, since I don't have the Argentine archives with me at the moment (I have them stored away abroad), I'll start off from the moment he arrived in Europe and leave open the option of adding the South American chapter to his career in the future.

    Please note, that the Spanish archives of the 1950s and '60s vary in condition, since the print wasn't always good. I also cannot guarantee that everything exists in the archives, but I will translate informing what is available. I will use the newspapers of ABC from Madrid and Sevilla and the Catalan papers of LaVanguardia and Mundo Deportivo.

    Please also note that this will require a long term project that consumes a lot of time, as was the case with the Cruyff thread, and I can't always dedicate my free time to it, so it can go on with many periods where it is inactive. If for whatever reason I disappear and I'm unable to continue, I hope someone will carry on with this project.

    I also want to thank PuckVanHeel for giving me the idea once he created his Johan Cruyff thread.

    From now on, this will be the definitive thread dedicated to Di Stefano.
     
  2. JamesBH11

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    Sep 17, 2004
    A BIG BIG rep in advance.

    I think this will be a great asset for everyone ... since many (including me) lack of a lot of info about this great legend!
     
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  3. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This is a great idea. :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Triton

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    Apr 27, 2009
    This is great. Hopefully, a thread for Pele and one for Maradona will open soon too.
     
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  6. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Thanks to all. If anyone has anything further to share please continue to contribute.

    Before I get into the match reports I want to share with you a magazine edition of April 1963 of El Grafico, which was dedicated to Alfredo. He was at the twilight of his career where he could see the light to the end of the tunnel. The magazine looks back to his beginnings and his progress throughout the years. It also contains interviews with himself, reporters and some of his former teammates and managers, which analyzed his game, broke down his strengths, his weaknesses, his personality, the evolution to his game throughout the course of the years and, ultimately his legacy.

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    [Front cover shows him with his son]


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    [It basically states that it isn't normal to put on hold other articles dedicated to other sports to talk about one player. But in this case it is justified. It also states that (we) the Argentines tend to not recognize what our players accomplish abroad. This is the time to speak about Alfredo because he may be nearing the end to his career.]

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    [Top photo is the first photo taken of him with an official side. It was part of the 3rd division team of River Plate in 1944 vs Racing. He was 18 years old. He is the fella standing all the way in the back.

    The middle photo is in 1946 in preparation for the preseason friendlies to the beginning of the upcoming season. On his sides is Munoz and Labruna at River Plate. He came on as a substitute for Pedernera in a match vs San Lorenzo and he scored a goal. But he wouldn't be staying for long because there were lots of players. He would move on loan to the team of Huracan, but after playing one season, and with River Plate asking for the price tag of 80.000 pesos, Huracan said no, claiming that it was too much. So back to River Plate he went.

    Bottom photo shows him in his second to last game at Huracan in 1946. He was 20 years old].

    To be continued...
     
  7. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
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    "He is already the Blonde Arrow"

    [Above photo at River Plate demonstrates his method to surprise the defence with his lightening speed. That's why he was baptized as the "blonde arrow" in Argentina. The big fella trailing behind for River Plate was another great, Jose Manuel Moreno.

    Photo on the bottom left represents the great Argentine side that conquered the Copa America in Guayaquil in 1947. Di Stefano alternated as a sub and starter with Rene Pontoni. He is accompanied by Boye, Mendez, Loustau and Moreno.

    The right side photo is at River Plate when the team was going to play a charity match vs Torino].


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    "The idol is born"

    [Bottom left photo illustrates him scoring his last goal for River Plate against San Lorenzo. 48 hours later he would move to Millonarios of Colombia.

    Middle photo is him en route to Colombia, accompanied by Pedernera and Nestor Rossi. It is 1949. Di Stefano is around 23 years old.

    Right photo is his arrival to Spain on 22 May 1953. At first it seems he is destined to play for Barcelona but after numerous negotiations, he ends up at Real Madrid. He is 27 years old.]

    To be continued...
     
  8. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Maybe I'll post some more info later but I start with what Puskas said about him in the 'Puskas on Puskas' book:

    "I was probably more determined than at any time in my life. I knew I couldn't expect the same service I had been used to at Honved an for Hungary, and I didn't get it. There was no Boszik who'd played with me since I was three years old and to whom I only had to say 'Now, Cucu' to get the required pass in the perfect place.
    [...]
    I took up the same inside-left position that I had played in Hungary and did my best to complement the rest of the team. I got 21 goals that season and Di Stefano 22, but after that I was the Spanish league 's top scorer four years on the trot. My game was different but I adjusted to theirs quickly. If Gento got the ball on the left wing, I soon learnt that he was so quick that if I didn't hit top speed instantly, there would be no one there when he crossed the ball. And of course I had to find my game in amongst some of the greatest players in the world at the time, Di Stefano, Kopa, Rial and so on.
    [...]
    Despite what might have looked like a difficult situation from the outside, I never had any real problems with Di Stefano. Of course in Hungary, for club and country, I was used to running out on the pitch first, as captain, so in Madrid I completely reversed that and made it a tradition that I came out last. When I arrived there, I studied Di Stefano intensely and got to know him as quick as I could, both as a player and as a person.

    We were equal on 21 goals each [at the end of 1958-59; Puskas his first season]. I thought to myself, if I score here, he'll never speak to me again. It was the best way. He was the season's topscorer and I was second. We became firm friends.
    Di Stefano is not the easiest of men, even today, and he could be a touch unpredictable. But I'll tell you what dominated his life: the enormous desire to win and to be the best at any cost. If that was threatened, he could be as stubborn and merciless as a young child. He was just as ruthless with himself, and if his own form wasn't quite there - it can happen to anyone - he would make up for it with energy and enthusiasm, and sheer effort if necessary. And he wanted the same from everyone else. He didn't like strangers and if any approached he would clam up and appear very unfriendly, but if someone he knew introduced a person to him, a friend, a supporter or anyone, he was charming and hospitable.

    "

    More text will come in a follow up post.
     
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  9. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
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    "

    Di Stefano didn't tell players off on the field, although you could sometimes hear him grumbling away and we'd grumble right back. In some ways, it wasn't so different from the way things were at Honved - there were no big recriminations in the dressing room after a match - but perhaps we were firmer friends in Hungary. There, we had, after all, known one another since our teens and grown up together in many ways.
    Di Stefano, anyway, had a right to grumble if he wanted: he was a great player and saw things others didn't see. No game is perfect, there are always mistakes, and Di Stefano would have a list of them in his head at the end: so-and-so didn't move into space quick enough; somebody should have seen him in the position he had found, but where was the pass? I never minded.
    He was perhaps the greatest center-forward in the world at the time. He knew the game back to front and was always physically and mentally prepared. I think I made a small contribution to his game: he liked to lie very deep, almost in defence, and sometimes found it too much to get forward into the attack. I encouraged him to assume a position further forward, very similar to Hidegkuti's in the Hungarian deep-lying centre-forward role, and like that we scored a hell of a lot of goals between us. He was by no means unapproachable in that sense.
    [...]
    The club was undoubtedly the foremost in Europe - perhaps even the world - at the time, and the organization was superb. I was very careful to behave well and not to get up anyone's nose by playing the 'superstar'. There were many stars in that team.
    [Later on he says: 'everything was very well organised by the club' and delves into this a bit deeper]
    [...]
    It was fantastic to be involved in another Golden Squad. There was real camaraderie in that Real team - perhaps not quite as close as at Honved, but that was understandable. For a really great team, I think genuinely close human relationships are essential. At least they have been in my life.
    [...]
    Anyway, that is one of the reasons why we were such a good team: the relationships between us were so good. I think that these days it is very difficult to do something similar at the top level of football. In Hungary today, for example, there is no shared sense of friendship and personal affection amongst current players, nothing like the feeling we had for each other at Honved. Individuals live much more separate lives now; it is a feature of modern life in general. But teams built around good players and harmonious relationships - like Honved and Real Madrid during their great periods - are very hard to beat. There was quality right through those sides. We could almost always win if we wanted to, as the records show.
    [...]
    When a team loses a match, there is always a media search for a scapegoat. I don't think our loss was Di Stefano his fault. He played well nine times out of ten and it isn't fair to blame him. He always made a terrific effort but sometimes he was more successful than others. I think Inter played better than us on the day and were worthy winners. I didn't like the kind of football they played, with everyone behind the ball, a system which the Swiss adopted first in the 1940s, which unfortunately is the way the current Hungarian side play too. The drift of football towards massive concentration on defence and hoping for quick breakaway goals hastened the end of my career. It wasn't much fun any more.
    [...]
    Di Stefano, of course, ranks with the greatest for me. Pelé too, and of the English, Bobby Charlton was their best. I thought Denis Law was a wonderful player at Manchester, but as for George Best, I think it is difficult to include him in the very highest group because his career at the top level was too short and without real international experience. I have been fortunate to know personally many of the world's greatest players, and I know too how much of a role 'lady luck' plays in a footballer's life.

    "

    This was it.

    Puskas also tells an anecdote about the famous 1960 final against Frankfurt. He was making sure that the ref would blow the whistle when the ball was at his feet. He thought the ball belonged to him because he scored the most goals. Regularly, he did a little contest with Di Stefano, "We sometimes [passed the ball back and forward to one another] at the end of a match that we knew we'd won. It was a little game we played between us to see who could grab the ball at the end."
    "I'd scored the most, so I figured if the ball was anyone's, it was mine. But I knew Alfredo had a hat-trick and would grab it if he could."
    In the end, the ball was given to a Frankfurt player.

    Maybe something more in the future. I got some very old interview with Di Stefano himself, at 1960, but that is a long one. So will take some time anyway.
     
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  10. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Thanks. Yes, Di Stefano was known to have a bad temper and to be impatient. He used to get frustrated if his teammates were not performing to the tasks as he expected. Some viewed this aspect to be a flaw in his game.
     
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  11. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Elsewhere Puskas repeats this, and says that many have said bad things about him. That he was "cold" and "distant" (page 182-83). But he defends him and prefers to highlight the positive sides of his character.

    This is also why this will be a great thread (for collecting the assists), to find out whether similar 'criticism' like that he wanted to be the main goalscorer/finisher all the time, made sense (though eagerness for scoring goals isn't bad per se).
    Ofc, he was at the same time also idolized in Spain; he had a personal show at the national radio every week. In a German book about him (which I possess) there it is said how (some) Real Madrid fans used to say "after Franco, he is the one who hands out the most orders in Spain."
    http://www.scudettoblog.de/2008/02/09/1969-fritz-hack-alfredo-di-stefano-20-jahre-weltklasse/
    Puskas also tells about his popularity in Spain (or Madrid if you want).

    Some comments of Gento, from another thread:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...pele-and-neymar.1987992/page-10#post-27975418

    (Also Gento highlights his 'will to win' as positive trait)
     
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  12. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
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    Above photo is at Real Madrid.

    At the bottom is what some of his teammates said about him.

    (Jose Emilio Santamaria, Real Madrid defender): "He has signified and signifies a lot for Madrid. A complete player. They allege that he is very fussy, that he is "cranky"... And that he yells a lot on the field. Of course he yells! And sometimes protests. But if everyone knew how he is... He comes out to win like no one. He puts his soul into the game. But above all he likes to win, even if it is at pellets..."

    (Ferenk Puskas, Real Madrid forward): "He reminds me of another great player... And how well that other lad played! I'm referring to Hidegkuti, whom also played with me. He was more technical and perhaps more cerebral than Alfredo. He used to perform the same tasks. Reception, order, distribution... But he didn't get forward as much as Di Stefano. More refined, but without being capable of completing all of what Alfredo is capable in doing, which is stronger. He didn't reach goal as Di Stefano could and knew how to do."

    (Miguel Munoz, manager of Real Madrid): "With him playing we have the certainty that we have two players in each position. In him unites an accumulation of virtues which make him exceptional. Unfortunately, figures such as Di Stefano arise late in football."

    To be continued...
     
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  13. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    I will translate the most interesting aspects of an interview with Di Stefano in April 1963.

    "I was born in Barracas... (this is the area of La Boca in Buenos Aires) afterwards I lived in Flores" (another part in Buenos Aires).

    He is asked how is it that he can sustain playing at the first level for so many years and playing with deep intensity...

    "Training is very important, but more so is my natural condition. This is fundamental... (he signals to his chest with his hand). For a footballer the legs is not everything. You have to have this well. Fortunately I can't complain. It is natural in me."

    Why did you change your game?

    "I started to realize that this is a game of 11 players. Everyone must work for everyone. It is a basic principle."

    "You have to have capacity... I run from one end to another on the pitch. I order and work at the back... But I'm also close to the goal. I've been top scorer many seasons. This season I played less games but still scored 12 goals..."

    "Samitier is a great man. We have a mutual respect. I have a great affection for him."

    He told us he brought you here (Spain).

    "Yes, don't tell me. When I remember those days... I was playing in Colombia. Over there everything resulted easy. We had a great team, superior to the rest. We used to win as we wanted. Slowly I started to realize that it had to end. Difficulties started to surmount with FIFA. I was thinking in returning to Buenos Aires. I made the trip and while I was there, Samitier wrote me. He wanted to bring me to Spain. I had my doubts. But he didn't. I was always accompanied by wealthy men: they wouldn't separate themselves from me. One day two gentlemen brought me tickets, associated with Barcelona. They insisted with the unimaginable and I finally arrived in Spain. And I stayed a few days!...A conflict between Barcelona and Real Madrid rose... And I did not know where I was going to play or live...I was raging to play football! Finally everything was resolved and I came to play for Madrid."

    With success?

    "No, not the first few games. I was out of shape, with a few extra kilos. But look at things. Around that time we had to face Barcelona, where things turned out well and I played extraordinary...Something similar occurred this year. I was recovering from an injury and we went to Barcelona. We won by a landslide... and I played well. I have lots of luck."

    Until when will you play?

    "I could play much more. I'm in perfect state. Inclusively I have no problem with the club. Don Santiago says I can play as long as I want."

    What is your opinion of other great players, for example, Pele, Sivori, and Didi?

    "I haven't seen Pele much, but I've been able to appreciate in him great virtues. He handles very well the ball, both legs, he's intelligent and smart, runs the pitch well... (after a pause he thinks)...But one would have to see him play in Europe."

    "Sivori is very good. A genius. But he hasn't been able to detach himself from the spell of playing for himself. That's the way he feels."

    "Didi failed at Madrid"

    "No one can deny his great class. Great control of the ball, with an extraordinary touch. But over here one has to run a lot, play for others; in one word: work. Work a lot. He did not hit his mission. You can't just wait for the ball. You have to go and get it..."

    He goes on to speak about some injuries he has suffered lately and how he still fears to fly, etc.

    For the rest of the interview please Google translate if you can't read Spanish.

    Below is the 4 articles.

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    Later on I'll get into more interviews of what managers, reporters, and teammates said about him.
     
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  14. Mehedi Hassan

    Mehedi Hassan New Member

    Nov 1, 2012
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    Manchester United FC
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    England
    You should have been a football journalist, vegan10.
     
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  15. Vegan10

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    Why did Alfredo Di Stefano become what he is ?

    The names above respond to that question.

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    5 questions about him.

    1. Is he a skilled player?
    2. Is he intelligent?
    3. What has been his greatest virtue?
    4. What has been his greatest deficiency?
    5. What was the secret to his success?

    "'My son will be the greatest player in the world... he will revolutionize the game'", said Alfredo's father. This was said in 1947, when Di Stefano operating as a center-forward for River Plate, was the revelation of the Argentinean tournament at the age of 21. He would end up being the top scorer of the season with 27 goals.

    Ten years later in 1957, a famous European manager was asked, what was in his view the greatest tactic, and he responded: "To have Di Stefano on my team".

    "At that stage, for many Di Stefano was the greatest player in the world. His game had produced an authentic revolution. He had broken with the static positioning. He had created a new dynamic."

    A magazine from Italy, once said after a Spain-Italy game, that he was "omnipresent", for his incredible capacity to be in many places on the field almost simultaneously. That night he had defended in his own box covering his goalkeeper and 15 seconds later he was at the other end scoring a goal for his team.

    So how did he become what he was?

    To understand, 5 questions have been asked, from managers, players, and journalists, that knew him well, and which will help explain to us this "phenomenon of Di Stefano".

    Before those questions are answered, we first have the opinion of Juan Carlos Lorenzo, manager of the Argentinian NT of WC62. He was with Di Stefano in Spain, and followed his career.

    "He is the most sensational player I've seen. One time I found him on the beach during the recess of season and we spoke of football. I was impressed when he said: "look; for the upcoming tournament I'm looking for a new play of a "one-two". I run to the left, I leave the ball with Pancho (Ferenc Puskas) and I continue without the ball, as if I'm going to receive it. But the pass is not for me. At the same time the kid (Rial) has to run to his right and the pass of Puskas will leave him alone. He will get tired of scoring goals..." That one-two play, gave victory to Madrid in the following season.

    "The "German" doesn't get bothered if he is pressured by the defence. When a defender is assigned to mark him at his back, he looks for another player in order to have two adversaries shutdown. In these games one views him running and screaming like a madman: "I don't play!" He is alerting his teammates that someone is open and should go in for the attack, meanwhile he pins down two opponents... He is a genius of a player!"

    Di Stefano was with Lorenzo during the 1962 WC as an adviser.

    To be continued...
     
  16. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    You just made this more and more ... interesting ! Great job
     
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  17. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
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    England



    That's a line of work that I've been thinking about going into... ;)
     
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  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    I'll now post an interview with Di Stefano. It is from a small booklet called "Real Madrid book of football" (1961). It is a long text containing his views and opinions, and will take several parts (don't be surprised if it takes eight to ten parts).

    "
    Football to me is not a more or less uncomfortable profession, but a wonderful and unequalled hobby. I say that in the full knowledge that I am 34 years of age and have had, as the Americans say, the 'best of it' throughout my career, success and honours, awards and privileges. You must take my word for it that, had I remained a humble player in Buenos Aires, my joy in the game would not have been less.
    It has been said that my seven years with Real Madrid coincided with the club's greatest period of success in its history. If I have played a part in that success, I have only repaid a group of wonderful employers and team-fellows. And my contribution is as nothing, beside the memorable moments, the rich colours that life as a Real Madrid player have provided me.
    I came to this great club humbly, aware of its traditions, and the many great players who had gone before - goalkeeper Ricardo Zamora, full-back Jacinto Quincoces, centre-forward Gasper Rubio and inside-forward Luis Molowny, to name but a few.
    And in my time in Madrid, there has been the unceasing pleasure of playing beside men of superb skill, intelligence and comradeship. In quick succession arrived such as Gento, Santamaria, Kopa, Del Sol, Puskas, and many others. One could never feel the "undergraduate" at any time with such a team; but rather, as a member of a highly successful faculty of professors. Men who gave as much as they took in the complex passions of match-play.
    In Britain, it is quite common for good players to continue their careers until rising 40 years of age - and, of course, in Stanley Matthews you have a dedicated and wonderful player able to break even that age barrier, yet remain a challenging figure. Matthews performance may yet have made him the invaluable ally of all ageing stars, everywhere! He has proved that if a man takes care of himself, and if his art be of high quality, he himself is the best judge of when he should retire.
    Much though I love the enthusiasm of Spanish football supporters, there is no denying they are capricious, on this point of age. They tend to tire more quickly of their idols than in Britain. When a player reaches 30, they take the attitude that he is finished, and should he continue, then he is playing extra time. I like to think my own case, and indeed that of my friend Ferenc Puskas, will help to change their minds.
    "
     
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  19. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    We will start off with the opinion of the first two.
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    Nestor Rossi
    [Former teammate of Di Stefano in the lower divisions of River Plate, in the first team of River Plate and at Millonarios of Colombia. As a footballer, he was one of those that spent the most time with the "blonde arrow" in his South American chapter to his career.]

    1. Is he a skilled player?
    "He is skilled. He knew how to control the ball, deliver it, and shoot. In the beginning only with his right foot. Afterwards he learned to shoot with his left. In the last days in Colombia he would use both feet. He was never a virtuoso, as could be Moreno, or Pedernera, or Baez. He used very little his head to none at all. I speak of the Di Stefano that I knew, from 1944 to 1953. Once he went to Spain I never saw him again.

    2. Is he intelligent?
    I’m still speaking of the player that I knew: intelligent in order to exploit his velocity, his sense of goal. But not as a creator of play, not as an organizer that could carry a team. It’s possible that later on he became a player that studied games before hand and during and after 90 minutes. In Colombia he still was not in that conversation. But this: he always tried to learn and get better. He kept progressing from year to year. In that aspect one can consider him intelligent.

    3. What has been his greatest virtue?
    His greatest virtue was his great physical state of condition in every game. From the beginning he was an athlete, for his velocity, his agility and his resistance.

    4. What has been his greatest deficiency?
    In the beginning he used to lower his head and his game lacked variety. He used to release himself going the same direction, to his right, and he played only to one single profile. He used very little his left foot, elevated poorly to use his head to none at all. He was a player for the goal, but little for the team. As the years went by he started to improve and polish his game. I think in Europe he must have completed his evolution, and if he still had a weakness, his experience permitted him to conceal it.

    5. What was the secret to his success?
    His great love for himself. He was lucky, because he had the chance to play alongside great insiders and he was able to learn a lot from them. Besides, he went to Europe in the most favorable moment. But luck alone, without the condition and morale in the player won’t be enough. He always had lots of spirit and never backed down when it required to work. Over in Colombia we had to make sacrifices. Not everything was to just cash in dollars. We didn’t have a physical trainer and we had to do everything on our own. In the training sessions Di Stefano was always the first to arrive and the last to leave. We were impressed seeing him work. Besides, what a physical state! He was a deer… Luck was on his side too because he did not suffer any serious injuries. But his condition and his self-love was fundamental for his success in football.”

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    Jose Maria Minella
    [He was manager of the 1947 River Plate side, which saw Di Stefano stamp his mark in Argentinean football at the age of 21.]

    1. Is he a skilled player?
    "In material of skills, I always considered him to be brilliant. He knew how to handle the ball on par with any virtuoso, and what's most important, at the highest speed and in the most practical sense. He never exceeded in his demonstration of skill. Perhaps for that reason one did not see him to be as skilled as he really was. He did what was just right. Not a step more, not a dribble extra, nor a luxury to spare. And he did it at a rhythm that, if he wasn't really skilled, it would have cut precision away from his game. It's known that it's easier to control the ball at a slower pace than at high velocity. Di Stefano would do it at 80 kilometers per hour...

    2. Is he intelligent?
    The same: brilliant intelligence. In the previous answer it's already explained. With his velocity, he could have "eaten" the ball more than once, but he always preferred the useful play, inside the best sobriety. He looked invariably for the effectiveness more so than to his own personal show off. And that's a symptom of great intelligence in football.

    3. What has been his greatest virtue?
    His greatest virtue? Di Stefano was all virtue. He was and is. Years ago I defined him by saying he could be a pawn or foreman, an artist or worker. All is said. When he was taken to Spain and at first to Barcelona, I told the chairman, even though later he would be transferred to Madrid, that they were receiving the best centre-forward in the world. Later on the European press unanimously came to that conclusion.

    4. What has been his greatest deficiency?
    Deficiencies? Those attributable to his youth and inexperience in the early phases in his performance in the upper levels of football. Excess of vigor, that sometimes resulted in him getting carried away. He was very impulsive which made him lose many goals. But chances which he had created. For that motive he wasted plays, but he produced so much that the balance was compensated favorably in his side by a large margin. Once he acquired experience it was all virtue with him.

    5. What was the secret to his success?
    A professional 100% in his application to football. Since he was a kid. He always worked with fervor. He always wanted to learn something new. Like few he knew how to combine his skill with his intelligence. He comprehended before others the necessity to give greater dynamism with velocity to football. He had the class to attempt a conservative game, with pause, static, of minimum wear, but he preferred the other path: to use his skill in movement, with a simple game which was rapid, providing generously his services to his team for 90 minutes per game."

    To be continued...
     
  20. Estel

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    May 5, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Rossi's comments seem to be in contradiction to what I had read regarding Di Stefano mentioning that he learned to use his left foot because his father made him play with it more, as it was not his natural foot. Also, it is interesting to note that Di Stefano was not considered to be a creator or organizer by Rossi during his time in Columbia.
     
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  21. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Part 2 of the 1961 Di Stefano interview/comments

    "
    Perhaps, impishly, I try to make this point when our own Real supporters come to watch us train. My own zest for the game is undiminished, and I will train as heartily as any man, and enjoy doing so. As one gets older, one realises the full value of retaining perfect physical condition, and taking care of oneself in private life. To make that enthusiasm evident I am often the last to leave the training field.
    Before doing so, I will try all sorts of tricks with the ball, using the instep, heel, knee, indeed all parts of the body. Invariably, in training, my tongue is showing, in a wide grin; quite natural, this, and just another expression of my joy in having chosen football as my profession. I will even go between the goals, and it is no secret that I shall not mind ever called upon to show my goal-keeping prowess in an emergency!
    My friend Bobby Charlton of Manchester United takes similar pleasure in being a goalkeeper in training sessions. Perhaps he imagines himself a Frank Swift, just as I imagine myself a Zamora! It is harmless fun - nothing so serious as the clown wanting to play Hamlet. And none can know if these private "hobby positions" may not one day become useful, in an emergency.
    At all events, those few watchers of our training can have no doubts about my enthusiasm, and staying power. Should I not undergo serious injury, and in that way I have been lucky in my career, and further, if it does not offend those gentlemen eternally forecasting my retirement, I think I can play for at least two, three, maybe four years yet.
    One thing I am sure about. Should Spain qualify for the 1962 World Cup Finals in Chile, I shall be there, working hard for a first-team place. We should be an experienced blend by then, well capable of adjusting to South American playing conditions, and I am sure Spain can do well.
    Of course, as now, there will be critics crying that I am 'over the top'. They say it each season about Real Madrid, with unfailing regularity, and are just as often proved wrong. Perhaps when we were at last beaten on an aggregate of four goals to three by Barcelona in the European Cup they considered their "forecast" a success at last. Well, within a week or two we won a League match 5:3 at Barcelona, to open up at that time a four-point lead in the Spanish League Championship. Was that the performance of a finished team?
    Barcelona are a strong and talented side, and when a rivalry such as theirs with Real Madrid has lasted so long it was, I suppose, inevitable they should have their turn! We Real Madrid players did not begrudge them their chance of winning the European Cup. We wished them well, in the best interests of Spanish football. For ourselves, we buckled down with determination to winning the Spanish Championship, and so re-qualifying for our favourite competition!
    "
     
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  22. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
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    Enzo Ardigo
    [Journalist that witnessed Di Stefano from the beginning of his career and throughout his triumphs in Europe].

    1. Is he a skilled player?
    "Of great skill. I’ve seen him do things that I haven’t seen from anyone else. And I’ve seen him apply that skill to schemes that have been pre-studied in a sensational way. For example: the goal that he scored against River Plate in 1946 when he was with Huracan, after only a few seconds after kickoff, was learned precisely when he was at River Plate. He always gave me the impression of being very skillful. In the same line of plastic and agility as was Arsenio Erico.

    2. Is he intelligent?
    A player capable of using his skill to his and the team’s advantage, as Di Stefano has done, has to have necessarily a great cerebral aptitude.

    3. What has been his greatest virtue?
    He has a lot of virtues. The greatest of them all is his sense of positioning on the field. To have comprehended that whoever has the ball needs to have someone close by to provide a give and go. I’ve seen him play in Spain some games where he was enormous. Accompanying in all plays. Over there the game is played differently depending on if the team is at home or on the road. In the Madrid stadium I’ve seen him play an offensive game which was demolishing. And 7 days later, as visitor, perform a formidable defensive display. What I’m saying is that we are in presence of a functional player, in condition of being the base of the team under any scheme. I think that no one, including Puecelle or Pedernera, could have foreseen the evolution that was going to occur in Alfredo which would catapult him to the genius that the entire world would applaud. Neither Huracan when they let him go for some thousands of pesos. Neither River Plate, when for those thousands of pesos they were willing to let him go to Huracan. Not even the Spanish, once Di Stefano arrived at Madrid. His beginning was tough. He was very highly publicized and something different was expected from him. It was difficult for him to play and to make others play to his tune, apparently simple but tremendously effective. But he achieved it. They accepted him and elevated him to heights that few others have ever reached. I remember watching him grow as a player in a tourney played in Montevideo in the summer of 1946. He was starting at River Plate as a centre-forward. After 20 minutes he was operating as wing-forward. For the second half, he was off…Every night the same story. No, no one would have sensed it. Not even him perhaps…

    4. What has been his greatest deficiency?
    He may have had weaknesses in his beginnings. The same may have occurred with Norberto Menendez. The stubbornness to repeat the same play on afternoons when things weren’t going his way. I can’t recall another. If he has them or had them I couldn’t tell. It is that the sum of all his virtues destroy any defects.

    5. What was the secret to his success?
    His discipline and his modesty. I was able to watch him in Madrid, after one of his great games against Barcelona, go to a nightclub with his wife. He drank a few glasses and retired at a prudent hour. Without subjecting himself to any other obligation which wasn’t in line with his sense of duty to his job. He lives a disciplined life. For his profession. And being the star to his team in Real, he doesn’t feel he is above the rest. At least he doesn’t show it. In the dressing rooms, he is a calm and quiet person. On the field he imposes his ascending game, by the capacity of his gravitation. That monument with a ball that is inscribed at his home in his garden where it says “Thanks, old one” is the proof to his modesty. For me there is no vulgarity in that original manner which Di Stefano has thanked the ball that has brought him the opportunity to ascend in life and to carry out his destiny as a winner. He understands all that he should. Of course one has to know how to use that ball… I believe, as with Ortega and Gasset, that one cannot isolate the man from the circumstances. The circumstances presented themselves in which Di Stefano had opportunities that were negated to others. Inclusively in his arrival to Real Madrid there was a circumstance which was favorable, almost decisive I would say. He traveled to Spain to play for Barcelona. Over there they didn’t sense him. Enrique Fernandez did, and took him to Madrid, a club which was an economical force that could offer him what Barcelona perhaps may have not. The fact of the matter is Di Stefano was able to take advantage of the circumstances. Don Pedro Escartin told me once that Alfredo had dark afternoons in Madrid. Not everything was the color of roses. But in those dark afternoons, after leaving the pitch, the conviction was that no one had worked as much, with as much boldness, with as much generosity and so much passion as him…"

    [Bottom photo illustrates him playing for Huracan in 1946 against the team that had just loaned him: River Plate].

    To be continued...
     
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  23. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    His father may have made the observation and encouraged him to improve with his weaker foot, but it took time for Alfredo to improve this aspect in his game.

    Reading the upcoming interviews from Pedernera and Carlos Puecelle, it is clear that they also reach the same conclusion as Nestor Rossi. It seems the evolution to his game begins in Colombia and culminates in Spain.
     
  24. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Part 3 of the 1961 Di Stefano interview/comments

    "
    Frankly, Real Madrid rises like the phoenix each season from the ashes made of it by the critics the season before. We are never, it seems, really 'too old... unable to lift our own boots'; we come again, strenuously, to new successes. In fact, I think this Real Madrid team is as strong now as five years ago. Perhaps even stronger, for to me the quality of our football always seems to be improving.
    Nowadays, it is easy, harmonic, well-linked - having the semblance of exhibition football, but at the same time deadly efficient. Those pessimists who have hung their woeful forecasts on us these last few years must by now have bitten their finger nails down to the raw flesh. Yet the strength of our football is clear for them to see, however dark and forceful their new presentiments of our failure!
    When I mentioned our determination to win the Spanish Championship, and re-qualify for the European Cup, I chose my word carefully: determination - and hard work, the two go together. Real players have never considered it enough to be simply virtuosos. Pride in club, responsibility, courage, and ability to work - these things are just as important.
    Every professional player owes maximum effort to his club. To hold anything back, even for a single moment, for the sake of comfort or convenience is a deception on his employers. It is a betrayal of the supporters who trust him. I can never understand non-triers. If they have no natural eagerness to play football, let them try something else, rather than mock the game.
    This is a point I have always felt strongly about. In my seven years with Real, I myself have probably missed less than half-a-dozen matches, through injuries. Many a time, even once or twice when I have been running a temperature, I have still convinced the managers to let me play. Football is a great game, and when one is with a great club it should be a privilege to play and give one's best, a privilege hard to sacrifice.
    My greatest pleasure is in hitting goals! For five of my seven seasons with Real I was the leading goal-scorer, but came second to that dynamic left foot of my good friend Puskas last season. Goals are the final accomplishment in football, the sweet "breath of relief" which comes after a clever build-up. Whatever one's joy in the swift intricacies of midfield play, it is surpassed by that sudden, catching moment in the penalty area when one shoots for goal!
    My son Alfredo, now five years old, is clearly acquiring his father's tastes. I help him a lot with his ball control, and he loves every moment of it. But he will often run away from me, just for the sheer pleasure of kicking the ball into a goal-net, and following on all fours to retrieve it! There are obvious signs there of his future bent. In fact, his command of a football already astonishes me - and others, too, at the Estadio Bernabeu when I take young Alfredo with me for a half-hour's fun.
    "
     
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  25. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    #25 PuckVanHeel, Sep 25, 2013
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    What do you know of his off the field habits? I know that Bobby Charlton was a chain smoker obviously, but I think Di Stefano didn't smoke.
    Comments by Puskas do reveal though that he loved some beverages frequently.

    It will be interesting to see how the reports cover his box-to-box game. I've read a few times that Real Madrid liked to play on the counter-attack during games (esp. when Santamaria arrived), or break out from midfield suddenly, and thus this box-to-box became a feature of other attackers and mid-fielders as well (like Del Sol), but often with AdS running the show. That is one 'mystery' I'm curious about.
     
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