Alejandro Guido signs with Club Tijuana

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  1. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Alejandro Guido on trial in the Netherlands

    I apologize I should have added a:rolleyes:face to indicate my internet sarcasm. We will call that one my bad.
     
  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Tijuana is basically becoming a US team.

    They're on the border, they have fans that come to games from the US, they get covered by a US newspaper, they have a bunch of US players, some of whom live in the US (Guido may join this list) and they play exhibitions in the US.

    Yes, they still have mostly Mexican players, but they have about as many Americans as the New York Red Bulls.
     
  3. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Ouch.
     
  4. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS should move Chivas USA to San Diego and rebranded them as Xolos USA. That would be an amazing rivalry game if they played every year, kind of like a derby. Does anyone else think this is a good idea or are the markets of Tijuana and SD too close together?
     
  5. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tijuana considers San Diego part of its market. IT doesn't have any sort of official rights to it by any means but they market themselves to American fans in San Diego heavily.

    Moving Chivas anywhere would be nice but right now they just serve as a cost free advertisement for the parent club and I doubt they are going to do anything about them.
     
  6. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Alejandro Guido on trial in the Netherlands

    Ale-jan-dro!

    Ale! Ale! Ale!

    :D
     
  7. stonejh127

    stonejh127 Member+

    Sep 9, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS has got to do a better job at keeping good up and coming youth players inside the states!!
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Guido was ever going to sign with MLS.
     
  9. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree, how many guys want to play for $40K (if you are lucky), play reserve and no guaranteed of being there next year. Tijuana gave him a three year deal. Just ask Dynamo's Navas Cobo what happens if you are no longer needed, bye bye. Rarely do you get a sniff of playing if you are young specially with a coach like Dominic Kinnear. Another coach, maybe.
     
  10. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm, I'm not an expert on MLS rules, it's all very complicated. But why wouldn't Guido not be offered a Generation Adidas contract for low six figures 100k-200k with a five year contract?
     
  11. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS does not value Guido as $100k-$200k. I'm not sure how many ended with this contract this year, but they were not many (maybe 5-8). MLS sees everybody else as MLS doing them a favor by paying them $40k and should just be happy to be playing "professionally". I guess if you make $1 out of it you should be happy and wait you also can make more money by coaching youth, going to events, and so on and if you get a roommate to help you pay your rent and bills then you are set! Stuart Holden I believe was making $24K-$32K. That was his value when he started and also when it was over.
     
  12. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know guys like Holden and Ream weren't making more money than me until they moved to Bolton. I guess I assumed Guido was higher on the list for MLS.
     
  13. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    We have no idea what Tijuana signed him for. Until we know that everything is wild speculation. Yes MLS can sign young prospects for more than $40K and you know it.
    All the GA and a few HGs signed for significantly more than 40K. And also yes you are right in the inference that there is more money in Mexico to make speculative talent signings. To use Stuart Holden who signed his contract after coming back from Sunderland and could have easily resigned for much more than 6 figures is not accurate. He chose not to. At the time he signed that first contract he was exactly worth that amount. His talent proved to make the deal in hindsight less than it may should have been. I do agree with your overall tone despite my concerns with your specifics. MLS has to address how they indicate that the long term growth of the sport in the US is signing young talented American players while at the same time not making any attempt to change rules or recruit and pay those young talented players like Stevie Rodrequez and Ale Guido. Actions speak louder than words. Tijuana is becoming what Chivas USA only dreams of.. Being the Mexican-American connection to soccer loving fans in Southern California.
     
  14. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think any non-college player was offered a GA contract, which is weird. Well except Junior Flores, so why wouldn't Guido be on the MLS list. Maybe he was offered and it never leaked.
     
  15. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be honest, it is pretty sweet business for MLS owners. You have very small team salary cap which you can use as an excuse not to pay more. Some teams are willing to spend more to win (LA, Seattle, NY..), while others just get by. If you can sign a young talent for $40k-$60K for three years with 2nd and 3rd year being "Team Option" years, which means they can cut you after the first year with no problems, but if you do great then sorry I still have you locked for two more years and there isn't a thing you can do. Maybe they offer a little more and renew contract, but contract is going to have to change to a 5 year contract with 4th and 5th year "Team Option". Well as a kid, you are getting a raise so you take it, but later you really want to go somewhere else, too bad. Oh yeah when your contract expires if another team wants you guess what, they need to give something to your old team (draft picks, allocation $)or you can't have him eventhough the team is paying you $0 and contract has expired. Geniuses and guess what the Players Union approved this, awesome!!!!! All for the Love of the game (players) and Money(owners)!
     
  16. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is for another thread but...

    this shows the need for a competent Reserve League in MLS, and a greater effort to sign young American talent.

    Really should not low-ball young American talent.
     
  17. Diegan

    Diegan Member+

    San Diego FC
    United States
    Sep 18, 2008
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This isn't some regular foreign team though... Tijuana has a unique situation which makes them more local for some of the players than MLS.
     
  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are still going to be limited to Mexican-American players because of the foreign player limit in Mexico.
     
  19. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    True.

    Guido and Corona are from the San Diego area. I won't be surprised if they start signing more and more kids from the greater SD area. Despite the border crossing, a lot easier to get to TJ than to drive up I5 to get to Carson.

    Also, when the likes or Eric Avila and the Farfans, who grew up outside San Diego in Chula Vista, are out of contract, I imagine they'll look to line up trials at Los Xolos.
     
  20. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Esteban Rodriguez also a San Diego product.

    With a SENTRI pass crossing the border makes it waaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier than driving to LA. It's basically like driving from parts of LA to Carson.
     
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  21. MMJ4mil

    MMJ4mil Member

    Apr 7, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    Xolos are heavily recruiting players in San Diego. They recently had open tryouts.

    good for Guido, he is going to a good team
     
  22. sandiegosoccer

    Feb 3, 2010
    Unless like every American that the Xolos have signed, they have at least one Mexican Parent so they don't count against the foreign player limit.
     
  23. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Any chance they'll be snatching up Frankie Hejduk then?
     
  24. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we just said the same thing.
     
  25. sandiegosoccer

    Feb 3, 2010
    We did, I misread what you had written. I apologize :)
     
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