Ajax 2015-16: What Will Frank Do?

Nowhere near as good as promised? I think that Sinkgraven should be given a bit of leeway given how he's been handled since moving to Ajax...he's looked very good in midfield though and remember he only just turned 20.

 

He has not convinced me so far, also as a midfielder. and 20 in not a young age for a Dutch talent.

 

I agree on Sinkgraven. I too thought he was better. To me he seems really insecure on the pitch. In his defense, he started the season pretty well as left attacking midfielder next to Klaassen. It started going downhill when Frank decided he wanted to play with a #10. Sinkgraven had to play defensive midfielder, made 1 mistake that cost a goal and then was banished to left wing. While a guy like Gudelj is allowed to make multiple dangerous mistakes every game...

We should have gotten Ziyech. He would have transformed this Ajax I'm sure.

 

It seems that Wim Jonk will be sacked. If that is true, it'll be the end of "the fluwelen revolutie" inspired by Cruyff and materialized by Jonk. The anti-ajax style De Boer is imposing to the first team will probably spread toward the Ajax academy.

http://www.ajaxshowtime.com/article/hoofdnieuws/91733/directie-zet-jonk-voor-het-blok

 

That's the nail in the coffin of the revolution. I have no hope anymore

 

It's ironic that the only person in the Ajax management who actually performed will be sacked.

 

And toward the NT.

 

Great. Another possibility to get Dutch football back on track shot down. I hate how bureaucrats and people with lack of imagination always have a way to win from idealists in organisations.

 

Was it ever different?
In the end it's always the ones with imagination who really advance Dutch football, the rest are just there to bullshit along the way and come in and take credit at the end. I don't know who will follow up Jonk, bet we will watch that person come in and take credit for Nouri, van de Beek, etc and no one will know, except the ones that follow the youth like us.

Btw, Jonk is a ********ing idiot for letting it come to this. I don't know what happend, but there is no way he can justify this. 5 years of work down the toilet!

 

I donot believe it to be that dramatic. After all WJ had all the space to manouvre in to realize his views on the youth. Otherwise he would have been stopped already. So his work with the youth wasnot the problem. But if you want to extend your(=JC) vision into the first team you have to convince and cooparate. Not put your fist on the table that this is the way Cruyff wants and I want it now and then walk out when they donot listen and then refusing to communicate with the one who's in charge of the whole thing.
So I do expect the youth simply go on the WJ=JC route.

 

Jonk doesn't accept his resignation. Tomorrow a lot of shit is about to go down.

 

I'm supporting Team Jonk for the good of Ajax and Dutch Football. Hope it ends in his favor!

 

I donot think it will. WJ has created the perfect situation for getting fired. He refused to communicate with the rest of the staff and with the mangement of Ajax. You are an employee, you cannot do that. He created what the judge will deem as an unworkable situation.
Sad for football, but that is the way it is.

 

I hope you donot give up on him! Confidence only needs to be boosed. It isnot a footballing flaw, which would be harder to mend.

 

I agree. I have given up on Frank though. I don't think Sinkgraven will flourish under him.

Most of the staff at the Toekomst have send an open letter expressing their support of Jonk and demand that he will be reinstated.

De staf van De Toekomst schaart zich in een open brief aan de RvC en directie van Ajax achter Wim Jonk. pic.twitter.com/HbxZgp6OKk

— Josien Wolthuizen (@wolthuizen) November 12, 2015

Cruijff in de Telegraaf has expressed his support for Jonk, said that he hasn't been informed about anything and that they should stop abusing his name if they continue to ignore him.

http://www.ajaxshowtime.com/article/hoofdnieuws/91794/cruijff-misbruik-dan-niet-meer-mijn-naam

Piet Keizer stated that Plan Cruijff hasn't gotten a fair chance because those in charge are going their own way. He says this is far from over.

Keje Molenaar has said that the wrong man was fired.

Tomorrow is the AVA where every share holder can ask questions from the board of directors. A lot of people are expected to show up.

 

Isnot he a member of the board of supervisors?

 

no

 

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/article24733914.ece/BINARY/Rapport+Ling.pdf

 

That was what Piet Keizer said on television. He had a talk with JC after he won the battle and wanted to convince him to go for quality, not loyalty, but JC said this is the way we will do it. So the guys that are now running the show got in.

 

So what happened? I read that Jonk refused to quit and the other youth coaches/staff support him. JC wanted his vision but he picked all players who have tie with LVG to implement his vision. Is it true that Jonk siding with JC vs Van Der Sar/Overmars/FDB who choose LVG's ways? Now JC also stepped down. What a mess!

 

Overmars want Ajax A1, A2 and B1 to be part of "betaald voetbal" section of the club. In other words those youth teams will come the jurisdiction of Frank and his assistants.. This is crazy.

Nothing happend. Johan and Wim Jonk lost. Overmaars and van der Sar said that they will continue with "plan Cruijff" without those two. And that they have their own interpretation of plan Cruijff.

 

Thank you. Perhaps we were deceived all along. Since Cruijff pulled out, he probably does not want his name to be used. The plan now is renamed "plan LVG" which it was from the beginning (which Cruijff did not know). JC may won the battle with the board but he lost the war because he picked the wrong people for his vision.