Alert: AFC in the World cup 2018

Discussion in 'Asian Football Confederation' started by Koreano, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. Genghis-Khan

    Genghis-Khan Member

    Nov 15, 2016
    Singapore
    Nat'l Team:
    Mongolia
    Japan is superior to Iran in aerial duels too. Stats don't lie.

    Aerial duel success in the group stage.

    Iran 42% - Morocco 58%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1249948/MatchReport/International-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Morocco-Iran
    Iran 42% - Portugal 58%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...ternational-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Iran-Portugal
    Iran 43% - Spain 57%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1249930/MatchReport/International-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Iran-Spain

    Average
    Iran 42.3% - Opponent 57.7%

    Japan 57% - Colombia 43%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...ernational-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Colombia-Japan
    Japan 44% - Senegal 56%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...ternational-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Japan-Senegal
    Japan 55% - Poland 45%
    https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1249965/MatchReport/International-FIFA-World-Cup-2018-Japan-Poland

    Average
    Japan 52% - Opponent 48%

    It's not that surprising because Japanese defenders are more talented than Iranians.

    Yoshida - 163 games for Southampton
    Nagatomo - 210 games for Inter
    Sakai - 192 games for Hannover/Marseille

    Iran has no defenders who play or played in the top leagues.

    Iran was toothless in attack too. Japan scored 6 proper goals. 4 from open play, 1 from a CK, and 1 from a deserved penalty. On the other hand, Iran failed to score a single proper goal. The goal against Morocco was an own goal. The goal against Portugal was from an undeserved penalty (International FA Board (IFAB) said Iran was wrongly awarded a penalty.)

    Let's stop comparing Iran and Japan. The former has never reached the knockout stage. The latter enjoyed 3 knockout stage appearances. It will take at least 12 years for Iran to equal Japan's knockout stage appearances.

    Anyways, the key moment in the Japan-Belgium was that fluke header goal by Vertonghen. Belgium looked completely shocked until that goal and it gave them a big belief.
     
  2. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Regard penalties in the game between Portugal and Iran:

    1. Portugal's penalty was totally an undeserved one. FIFA said that too.

    2. Iran was awarded a deserved penalty. The following video shows that the ball touched his hand clearly and the referee confirmed it after using the VAR. The other videos do not show It was a penalty but this video shows it from an angle which makes it clear that It was a correct penalty. One of FIFA members had an interview with Varzesh3 one day after that game and said Portugal was awarded a wrong penalty and Iran's penalty was a correct one. After that goal, we had chance to score the winner goal but the match ended in a draw which was overall a fair result.

     
  3. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #28 AIL1998, Sep 8, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2018
    Carlos Queiroz (CQ) in Navad four days ago: Our penalty in third match of the last World Cup was absolutely a penalty.

     
  4. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    KiarashM repped this.
  5. Genghis-Khan

    Genghis-Khan Member

    Nov 15, 2016
    Singapore
    Nat'l Team:
    Mongolia
    Sorry, I trust a neutral (IFAB) opinon over Iran manager's opinon.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ll-14-decisions-made-mostly-correct-nflnrrv3k
     
  6. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #31 AIL1998, Oct 5, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2018
    You can trust anyone's opinion you want. I do not care. There are many neutral opinions and all of them are not same. That is a fact about controversial decisions by referees.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6625837/var-cristiano-ronaldo-elbow-iran-portugal-penalty/

    Referees’ chief Massimo Busacca (a neutral person) added: “When it is viewed as hand to ball, when the arm is now down, the VAR official will tell the referee to have a look.
    “For us it is a penalty, 100 per cent. It is not a grey area. There will be no discussion. Referees and VAR officials are very clear on that.”


    In the above article, It says Ronaldo should have gotten a red card as well.



    In the above video, they also say Iran should have been awarded a penalty earlier but VAR was not even used for that incident. It is the following incident:

    https://video.varzesh3.com/video/169452/صحنه-مشکوک-به-پنالتی-برای-ایران

    So VAR was not used for all questionable incidents . Another one is the following video that VAR was not used to check the handball by Pepe in Portugal vs. Morocco game:



    Now what is my personal opinion? IMO a yellow card was fine for Ronaldo. Both Portugal and Iran were awarded one penalty that IMO both of them were 50-50. However If was the referee I would have given the foul on Taremi (https://video.varzesh3.com/video/169452/صحنه-مشکوک-به-پنالتی-برای-ایران) a penalty not the one we got although It touched his hand, his arm was open, and It changed the direction of the ball. I also would have given the penalty Portugal got although some people believe It was harsh to call that a penalty.

    Note that although I like both Spain and Morocco, but personally Portugal was my second favorite team in the group.

    Also note that most VAR and referee decisions in last a few years were against us. Do not want to go back to some older games such as Argentina vs. Iran where IMO we should have been given a clear penalty.
     
  7. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    One more thing: I am not a guy who likes to talk about referee too much. I have never mentioned anything about suspicious decisions that were against us in last a few years. There were many matches (Ex. Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Syria, Iraq, etc) in last a few years that suspicious decisions were made against us but I never started to talk about them unless someone enforced me by his comments.
     
  8. Genghis-Khan

    Genghis-Khan Member

    Nov 15, 2016
    Singapore
    Nat'l Team:
    Mongolia
    Anyways you can't rely on own goals and penalties to go further at the World Cup. Every team in the round of 16 scored goals from open play. Iran's firepower is nothing special even at Asian level. Iraq scored more goals than Iran in the previous WCQ final round.
     
  9. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Overall it was an ok WC for Asian teams. I was impressed by Japan. Iran can do a lot more harm if we loosen up on our ultra defensive tactics. Iranian league has many creative midfielders and fast pace wingers, but our problem is that our manager loves park the bus tactic and occational counter attacks.
     
  10. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #35 AIL1998, Dec 15, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2018
    When CQ managed Portugal in the World Cup, they did not score single goal in any of their matches except their North Korea game. No wonder why Portuguese told me that he was their worst manager by miles when I asked them about their best and worst manager of last two decades in their forum before start of the last World Cup. (http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/road-to-russia-rumo-à-rússia-2018.2034705/page-58#post-36322452)

    As you saw our tactic in the word cup was completely defending and occasional counter attacks. That is probably why CQ used non-creative players that were physical and willing to defend and run a lot like Taremi, Ansarifard, etc. instead of our creative players like Ghoddos, Gholizadeh, Torabi, Kaveh Rezaei, etc.
     

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