** A New Era - Rebuilding the Azzurri

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Stamos, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  2. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    His buddy Emerson has already been capped at left back and if he stays injury free, is much better.
     
  3. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Alex Telles maybe aims Portuguese NT, through Telles surname and through work and residence in Porto. Nicolao could be surname or middle name. Inter gave up from him. Not sure is Porto progress after Inter. Palmieri had several nice games for Chelsea. Jorginho scored nice goal from 15 meters.

    Filipe Luis Kasmirski is also partially Italian. He is much better than Thiago Silva.

    Better chances for Italy are Uruguay, Argentina.
     
  4. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    1. he's capped for Brazil
    2. he's old
    3. he's a LB.. and you're comparing him to Thiago Silva? lol
     
  5. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    He capped for Brazil, but he is always in the second plan. I meant on previous periods. For European standards, he is solid. We still don't have enough energy, like Colombians for example. He was young before 7 years.:D
    I saw Thiago Silva against Manchester United and all Brazilians in that team. Not good.:confused: Their key defenders got 7 goals from Germany at World Cup 2014. Thiago Silva, Marcelo and David Luiz. South America doesn't have so great defenders. Few of them are great: Godin, Gimenez, Gary Medel, Tagliafico.
    Juventus will buy Marcelo maybe. How can this be something great for Juventus?
    Brazilians in Porto picked Portugal few times: Deco, Bruno Alves, Pepe.
     
  6. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thiago Silva was suspended for that game. I can confidently say if he was in their there would have been far less than 7 goals scored LOL
     
  7. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Fixed
     
  8. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #833 Gilbertsson, Mar 9, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2019
    Calabrese, Thiago Silva also played against Manchester United. Entire defence had bad reactions. Manchester only used their mistakes, without much of work in creating chances.

    In the matter of goalkeepers, defenders, I would always pick Europeans. Better concentration, focus, organisation and the game view. Alex Telles obviously has qualities, he has authority and leadership, because he took that penalty against Roma in 117th minute. I'm against players who are too weak for Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, when they chase for European countries, like Spain, Portugal, Italy.
    But in the case of equally wanted players, it's nice to be the first in picking them.
    Example is Emerson. He is probably better than Alex Sandro, Marcelo (who is much older). So, Emerson is a nice decision.
    But in cases of Rodrigo Caio Coquette Russo, Fagner Conserva Lemos, I wouldn't be interested in taking them, because Brazil doesn't want them. 29 and 25 years, they still play in Brazilian league. Great defenders obviously play in Torino also, they received only 22 goals. Sampdoria is also very good in defence, 33 goals, Fiorentina 32.
    Atalanta has great attack, but they are all foreigners: Alejandro Dario Gomez (31 years, Italian citizen, because of his wife), Duvan Zapata (Colombia), Musa Barrow (Gambia), Josip Iličić (Slovenia). Can't believe that even weaker clubs can't get 4-5 local attackers.:sleep: They go in Gambia, or he came from Gambia as an child.
    Sampdoria could have a nicer pool of attackers: Caprari, Quagliarella, Gabbiadini.

    Situation with Mauro Icardi is also strange, Argentina won't invite him or Dybala, because they don't agree with Messi.

    Mario Balotelli is forgotten I guess, although he scored 4 goals in 6 matches for Marseille.

    Danilo Cataldo (MF), Marco Benassi (MF), Vincent Laurini (DF) French of Italian descent. When I observe the squads of different teams, they bought players from very exotic countries.:rolleyes:

    Alessandro Bastoni (19 years), player of Inter, on loan in Parma.

    Nicolás Javier Schiappacasse Oliva? - Uruguay, on loan from Atletico Madrid in Parma. He scored 14 goals in 29 matches for Uruguay U20. Not yet capped on senior level.

    There are many Italian players on loan from different better clubs, but they don't return them back, even if it seems that they have that needed quality. Strange decision making in Serie A.:confused:
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Le pagelle di Juventus-Udinese 4-1: Kean scatenato ... - Eurosport

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    He just turned 19 last Friday!

     
  10. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I agree, there have been very strange decisions made over the years recently.
     
  11. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  12. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Just observe part with the listed players which are on loan, 20-30 players each better club.:confused:
     
  13. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    We have some players coming up but not enough
     
  14. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    Napoli not doing their part for Italian player development.
     
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  15. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    2nd worst club in the league for that after Atalanta
     
  16. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

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    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    18 Italian players of Napoli are on loans. Only few are loaned to the clubs in Serie A (Parma, Sampdoria).

    Meret, Verdi, Luperto, Insigne are in the first team.
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/ssc-neapel/startseite/verein/6195

    Also, they created Donnarumma. Other bigger clubs have less foreigners.
     
  17. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
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    Italy
    Only Meret and Insigne regularly start. Luperto barely features and Verdi is a late sub.

    Why buy players to loan out. Better if they play in Italy no?
     
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  18. Gilbertsson

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    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Loans would be an good solution, if they play in Serie A. They are often between 20-23 years old.
    Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amato_Ciciretti
    25 years, Napoli owner, Ascoli loan. If he is great, why not returning him, if he is bad, sale would be more effective.

    Mario Balotelli scored against NIce.


    He celebrated with morra, hand game.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morra_(game)
     
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  19. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I'm assuming you're talking about the club and not the city
     
  20. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I meant we like Italy not Napoli but I guess it applies for both ya
     
  21. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    Atalanta have been pretty good over the last couple of seasons, this season however they are a mostly foriegn club.

    Lazio are by far the worst in Serie A for that.
     
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  22. GIGI RIVA

    GIGI RIVA Member

    Fiorentina
    Canada
    Aug 24, 2009
    Guelph Ontario
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yesterday Bernadeschi finally established himself as a Juve regular and Azzurri regular
     
  23. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    Correct.
     
  24. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Yes, it was a dominant performance. Allegri finally trusted him and he came through big time. He's always had the talent. This year he took his physique to the next level with more power and speed. It showed in the 86th minute as he powered into the box to draw the key PK.

    If only we can fix the prima punta situation, the Italian team has a very bright future.
     
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  25. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
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    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    he was talking about how he dove like a little girl.
     
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