NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

This needs to be in both gun related threads. Try it in this country and we'd have civil war.
"From my cold dead fingers"

How Japan has almost eradicated gun crime

Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world. In 2014 there were just six gun deaths, compared to 33,599 in the US. What is the secret?

Read more:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38365729

 

People always ask that! If it was revealed it wouldn't be a secret anymore...and then you would have to be put down [you're a Pool fan so what's one more or less]!

 

Logical thinking, public policies. Versus NRA.
No contest.

 

Take that !

If you want to buy a gun in Japan you need patience and determination. You have to attend an all-day class, take a written exam and pass a shooting-range test with a mark of at least 95%.

There are also mental health and drugs tests. Your criminal record is checked and police look for links to extremist groups. Then they check your relatives too - and even your work colleagues. And as well as having the power to deny gun licences, police also have sweeping powers to search and seize weapons.

That's not all. Handguns are banned outright. Only shotguns and air rifles are allowed.

The law restricts the number of gun shops. In most of Japan's 40 or so prefectures there can be no more than three, and you can only buy fresh cartridges by returning the spent cartridges you bought on your last visit.

You did ask!!!
But could you...in your wildest stretch of imagination that happening here???

Oh and. Born and raised in Anfield.

 

Uh....oh! Zios Two Fingered Enrico and No Lips Luigi along with associates Carlo The Carver and Shoeless Giuseppe Jackson would put a crimp in my application.

 

That's what friends are for.

 

Japan's gun non problem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38365729?SThisFB

 

Trump junior solving a hearing safety issue.

Donald Trump Jr. Wants Fewer Restrictions on Gun Silencers in 'Hearing Protection Act'

 

He could do me a favor and reduce the backlog at ATF so I can get my NFA stuff without the 6-8 month wait time, but with the amount of people buying suppressors and SBRs that won't happen anytime soon.

 

They also have 99% conviction rate.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572

The future in Trumps America?

 

Well the obvious advantage is the noise. A suppressor will make nearly any firearm hearing safe (140DB). You also get the benefit of less felt recoil. If there are any local noise ordinances you don't need to worry about shooting on private property. Just like with other "guy" things (cars, watches,etc) there is definitely a cool factor to shooting a suppressor. Did I mention they are fun to shoot? Once you own one you usually want another, and another....

Two of the places I frequent most are around 50 acres. More than enough space to shoot, but the noise still will travel out to the neighbors. These places are in the country and it is generally acceptable to shoot from around 11am to sundown without pissing anyone off. When I want to shoot earlier in the morning, at night, on a Sunday or holiday, my suppressors allow me to do that without being a jackass.

 

Thank you. I wish all gun owners had the same consideration of others as you do. Silencers aren't a bad thing. Unfortunately, you and your cohort get drowned out by a lot of wackos who are intentionally conspicuous and contrarian.

ON a slightly different note -
My favorite part of that Japan article (slightly behind is the proficiency class) was that all spent casings needed to be accounted for and turned in to purchase new ammo. When I go pheasant hunting with my father-in-law (mainly for the dogs), we also hunt down and pack out all of our spent casings.

Now, I'm not saying it should be 1-1 casing-new bullet. However, I've gone shooting with my gun-enthusiast brothers and father too. We've gone to several outdoor ranges, and they are complete shit-show dumps. If you had to turn in casings to buy more ammo, that would go a long way to keeping things clean and keeping drunkards from shooting up bone-dry ranges in the middle of the night, which lead to wildfires. (We had a rash of these in Utah a few years back.) There's got to be a way to account for your waste. (I'm similarly pissed at finding cigarette butts in remote areas of mountain wilderness.)

If you don't want to clean up after yourself, then go to a for-profit gun range. If you don't, then don't make me pay (taxes or my own personal time) to clean up after your bad manners or wade through it because those government agencies have been so starved of funds that they can't afford to pay someone to clean up after you.

 

We don't really run into that problem around here, all the ranges are privately owned and well maintained or your shooting on private property.

Im guessing you were using a shotgun for the pheasants and the shell casing was plastic, so yes a good idea to pick up. The casings for rifles and handguns are usually brass, which is not a big concern to the environment. The bullet itself is almost always lead which is the concern for the environment. But I can understand how messy it must get at a free outdoor range ( no range officer?) which can be accessed 24/7 by anyone.

 

There's lots of open dry land out here. This area was closed down earlier this year, finally.

 

One thing I forgot to add when we were discussing suppressors is the penalty for illegal possession or using one during criminal activity. Possession of a suppressor during a crime carries a mandatory minimum of 30 years in Federal prison. One of the toughest punishments in our legal system.

 

Illegals from Mexico did it is the new a black guy did it.

 

Yes, i saw this a few days ago and just shook my head. Whats worse is that a Texas state official went on a tirade claiming that this is why a wall is needed and stricter immigration, yadda yadda yadda. This type of blaming of "others" has been a staple of people like this. I have seen it for the entirety of my 40 something years. Hell, Emmitt Till was probably called out by his accuser (which we know was a lie) because her husband caught her looking at the bulge in his pants, and had to distract attention from that.

 

Plus if you look at the people killed, assault rifles mostly kill white people, so I am not surprised they would have more support to be banned.

Hand guns kill brown and black people (and lots of whites also) but they are protected by D.C. v. Heller.