5 top wnt players accuse ussf of wage discrimination

That said, Plush did stop short of guaranteeing #USWNT players would be in #NWSL preseason if CBA remains unresolved (!!!)

— Dan Lauletta (@TheDanLauletta) January 12, 2017

Sauerbrunn said #USWNT players 'have every intention' of being in #NWSL preseason but again stopped short of saying it is not an issue

— Dan Lauletta (@TheDanLauletta) January 14, 2017

Regarding CBA Sauerbrunn said team was "keeping it very internal" and left it at that #NWSL #USWNT

— Dan Lauletta (@TheDanLauletta) January 14, 2017

 

Keeping it "very" internal quite a change from Today show, 60 minutes, etc, etc

 

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...n-us-soccer-football-fifa-lyon-women-equality

 

Jonathan Tannenwald‏@thegoalkeeper Jan 15
Spent some time talking with Carli Lloyd just now. She noted that she has stepped back from the bargaining leadership group.

 

From the Lloyd article:

"We just want a fair deal," Lloyd said. "There's things the men have such as bonuses and other things that we think should be the same. There's other things that we think should be different. There's other things that you really can't compare, because this is our primary source of income, and for the men, it's sort of an added bonus for them. The clubs are their main source of income."

What are those "other things"? Lloyd specifically mentioned "equal playing surfaces - if the men are not playing on turf, we don't want to play on turf - per diems, bonuses, that type of stuff."

Another subject that has long been on the list is travel accommodations, specifically when it comes to air travel between games. The players have asked for fewer flights in coach class, and more in business class or by charter.

"I think the whole 'equal pay' thing kind of got a little misinterpreted," Lloyd said.

That quote might raise the ire of fans who'd claim they didn't misinterpret anything. After all, much of the saga last year played out in public, from social media to national TV shows and major newspaper front pages.

But in the last few weeks, there has been a definite change in tone. It's likely no coincidence that happened after the players union got rid of lawyer Rich Nichols, who took some hardline stances against U.S. Soccer in public and in court. His rhetoric brought a lot of big headlines, but that didn't help get a deal done.


http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/thegoalkeeper/410835785.html

 

Oh, how rich!

 

Hope she doesn't pull a hammy backpedalling that hard

 

Why are they so much more rational now?

 

New lawyer.. Solo is no longer at the table... EEOC and NRLB are likely going to see a more corporate friendly swing due to the election, etc

 

I love how they still downplay they get a salary. I say give the whiny outfits what they want, use percentages of revenue and distribute it exactly the same. So salary gone, ungrateful things, how do you like equality now? All the riders concerning per diem, travel, and playing surfaces ought to be exactly as the men.

As to pitch quality, Saprissa (was carpeted concrete), Antigua and Barbuda (cricket pitch played on during typhoon conditions and the center circle was a pond. The men play oon some shite surfaces too.

If I ever look up overplayed hand, there should be a note See USWNT post 2015 WC.

You cannot legislate interest in a game. Until WOSO puts the same amount of butts in seats and gets a TV provider willing to air their games, women will make less than men. There is very very little consumer interest in their game other than international football.

 

This whole thing is about international football....

 

Guardian article on the CBA negotiations and possible effect on NWSL: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...onal-team-soccer-pay-dispute?CMP=share_btn_tw

I find it interesting that the players involved in the negotiation have almost completely changed. Not only is the lawyer gone, as well as Solo, but Lloyd, Rapinoe, and Morgan have all stepped away from the negotiating table. Now the player representatives are Sauerbrunn, Press, and Klingenberg. I think that change probably plays a big role into why the tone has changed.

 

Who wrote that garbage? What does he know about women's soccer in the US?

 

I wonder why the other players left the player representatives role?

 

I can make some guesses:
Solo: obvious as she was terminated
Morgan: signed with OL and is now is in France during the negotiations
Lloyd: she basically said she had too much on her plate with her wedding and other duties (and she's admitted in the past to hating the "politics" of the WNT).
Rapinoe: no idea; maybe she wasn't asked? (see below)

I hadn't read the above Philly article (post #905) until just now, but it does mention that the new representatives were a part of "rebuilding" the WNTPA:

 

The emails that were filed in the USSF lawsuit a year ago had all cc. Sauerbrunn, Lloyd, Stevens (Solo), Rapinoe, and Morgan.

Solo was thought most associated with lawyer Rich Nichols who is also gone. Maybe the ones who advocated his approach are those off the new list?

 

Maybe the players realized that salary and job security were more important to them.

 

More likely that it was all a ploy to get public sympathy and a better deal. They knew what they wanted all along.

 

I hope the player pool is opened up. No reason to roll out a declining Rapinoe when Pugh and Ohai are on the upswing and so much younger.

 

I get that, but the money problem is due to trying to build a domestic league. The salary situation pre-dates the domestic league. If they want the same deal as the men, then the first thing they need to do is give up guaranteed salaries. Until that happens then there is no meaningful comparison between the two.

Security has a value not easily quantified. They purposefully downplay the significance of having their club salaries supplemented and a contractual spot on the roster. If it has no value, then surrender it as a sign of good faith and require/demand the same percentage of Fifa revenues as the men. All fair then right?

 

Do we really have to do this all over again?

 

Anything new on this?

 

Nope. Since Solo got round filed and some of the other vocal players got sidelined things have been a lot quieter.

 

I think that we have to accept there will be nothing new/off the cuff player comments/interviews, etc. until there is official news.

 

These people only want to talk in carefully orchestrated interviews.