4th game: Peru vs Venezuela (r) pre/post game comments

Too much whining, whatever you think the referees role he did not make up the goals, Peru failed to materialize anything, even the penalty play it would have been a technicality since you had no control whatsoever of the ball.

When the refs ripped us off with Bolivia with which was 100x more relevant. We still did not whine as much.

 

You guys did not whine, ummmmk.

Alot of people saw what the ref did. I mean anulando 3 penalties for Peru, at least. F that.

 

sip - el mismo que le quito un PK - tan claro como el de hoy a canada en la FINAL DE copa oro vs USA....y eso era una final, cualquiercosa puede pasar con ese gil.

comprale pasaje de regreso a tamaulipas...en venezuela ni de recoje bolas lo van a emplear.

 

I think it was a penalty and it affected the game

But what people never talk about is:
"Was the referee able to see the play or not?"

I think it would have been very difficult for the referee to see that penalty.
And the reason is that the referee had the worse angle to see what happened.
If there's somebody to blame, would be the sideline.

Handball in the last play?
I don't know, I didn't see a replay.

BTW, It's Venezuela's 2nd victory.
and the important thing is that Venezuela now has a very good chance to go to the 2nd round for the 1st time.

 

Como dije anteriormente: no fue si fue un robo "propiamente tal", pero de que Vza. se vio favorecida por el arbitraje...de eso no hay duda. Ten la hidalguia de reconocerlo. Ademas, fuiste uno de los que mas alego en contra del arbitraje de Colo Colo - Caracas (no tiene mucho que ver, pero no hay que ser cinico tampoco).

Metro

 

Yes, he's from Mexico.


I don't think he was bought by Chavez (of course, there's no way to prove he was/wasn't), but he really did have a terrible game; especially when it came to not calling that obvious penalty. He also did a lousy job at Canada's semifinal in the Gold Cup.


At the same time, he was a very good referee at WC 2006. He was one of the most consistent referee's at the World Cup, and became the first referee to handle 5 World Cup matches in a tournament.

Article on Archundia's refereeing in WC 2006 here.

 

That's the point. That's what Archundia was there for. Venezuela could not be the first host country to get eliminated in the 1st round. It wasn't going to happen. I don't know who it was, but somebody pulled the strings and just in time for Archundia to ref the game. This is the 2nd time he's called the game in favor of the host.

I knew something like this would happen...I just didn't want to believe it...

 

Archundia la cago y punto. Queria que ganara Peru porque la mera verdad Fifa (en este caso conmebol) siempre le echan la mano a los equipos anfitriones que necesitan alluda.

Tres mundialistas en el grupo B y C y cero en el grupo A. No mamen.

Quiziera creer que los arbitros no se compran. Mi Padrino que murio en el campo hace menos de un ano fue albitro en Mexico y tuve nomas una oportunidad de hablar con el afondo y me aseguro que heco no pasa, o que el sepa no pasaba.

Fue un hombre de honor y quisiera creer que haci son la mayoria.

 

Even with a penalty, the final would have read 2-1 in favor of Venezuela.

Peru had their chances, most of which fell to the feet of Guerrero but he failed to capitalize each and every time. He's an exciting player, but his unsportsmanlike and childish behavior after the match deserves a fine. I'm surprised Peruvian fans haven't said Guerrero was bought by Sanchez or CONMEBOL for his misses today.

The non-call on the PK is due Venezuela for the clear penalty that should've been awarded to them against Bolivia. Plus Paez getting sent off was wrong. So how, then, are the refs favoring the host team? Please explain.

Congratulations to the Vinotintos. You won fair and square, and should feel proud to be likely moving into the quarterfinals for the very first time in your history.

 

Cual es tu definicion de mundialista???????!!!!!!!

Uruguay ha ganado 2 copas mundiales, Bolivia ha ido a un mundial y Peru a cuatro.

PS: Hora de tomar lecciones en gramatica y ortografia.

 

I like typing in spanish here and there and I knew some of the grammar was wrong, but what can I say I'm a lazy bastard.

Mi definicion de mundialistas son equipos que fueron al pasado mundial o tienen a jugadores que an hido al mundial o tiene experiencia en el mundial.

Uruguay ha ganado dos copas del mundo. Hace 50 anos.

Bolivia ha ido a un mundial y Peru a cuatro. Bolivia en el 94 y Peru en 82.

Que tiene que ver en esta Copa lo que haigan hecho estos equipos hace decadas? Mi punto era que Conmebol le estava alludando a venezuela por ser el anfitrion y le dieron el grupo mas accesible.

 

My intention was not to knock any team in the group just the system. I have nothing against these teams. Uruguay is still Uruguay. Peru fielded ome of the best teams in the 70's why they didnt do more with what they had is anyones guess. Venezuela has made giant strides considering where they were half a decade ago. And bolivia is attempting to get back to where they were in 94.

I just hate the fact that the powers that be (Conmebol) basically fixed the draw thats all.

 

First of all, I counted at least 2 clear penalties(one on Guerrero and one on Pizarro) and the hand ball(brazo) in the last minute of the game that were not called. Plus all the other missed calls.

Can you blame his frustration, the ref was clearly in favor of Venezuela.

Fair and square? Cmon man, you not even the Venezuelans believe this. I heard from so many non-Peruvian futbol fans say how bad Peru was robbed today. I hate to make excuses, sure Peru didnt capatilize but F that...............1 mistake ok, 2 mistakes you piece of crap, 3 mistakes go f yourself, but this sonabitch ref made like 8-10 mistakes. This was the worst I've ever seen Peru treated in a game. I hope and pray to the cheating referee Gods that Uruguay beats Venezuela and Peru beats Bolivia.

Thats justice my brothers...hable.

 

Ahora sí. Ahora estamos viendo la realidad pura y dura. Uno no puede retroceder al último peldaño de américa y salir de él tan pronto. Perú pasó a ser la nueva cenicienta de américa y el marcador de ayer lo demuestra. Ampliamente superados por una Venezuela discreta.


Saludos y a seguir remando.

 

Pero CONMEBOL no es la unica federacion que pone los equipos de casa en grupos con menos competicion. El anfitrion siempre tiene la ventaja de tener un grupo sin favoritos.

 

Totally agree ... remember the match against Bolivia. Venezuela as a host received a non-call for a clear penalty, so the team did not received a help for the ref... But now that The Venezuelan team won against Peru, you say stupid things like that Chavez has bought the game. come on....holy cow!!!

 

2nd BEST post of the whole thread!

if jorge rojas got the call of PK in last game(last minute) vs Bolivia: los locales will claim 6 pts today.....

so that officiating critic goes out the window.
archundia is plain bad, lets hope he is on plane back to tamaulipas today....

 

Actually....Bolivia has participated in 3 World Cups.

 

I agree........saying the ref was bought is too extreme....the reality is the ref was plain bad (anybody else notice how overall referees in the tournment have sucked?). But in all fairness, I don't think a better ref would have resulted in too much of a different score. I do think the ref failed to call one clear PK for Peru....but it is also true that Venezuela did play better regardless......perhaps because Peru had only 10 men in the field......but the red card Peru got was a well deserved red card. My personal opinion is that the result was fair.