News: 40 man preliminary Roster for the Copa

Tell me if I forgot anyone. I usually forget one or two by accident.

My 40 man preliminary roster:

GK: Howard, Guzan, Horvath, Hamid, Melia
Defenders: Besler, Brooks, Gonzalez, Parker, Hedges, Miazga, Yedlin, Chandler, Lichaj, Villafana, Tierney, Ream, Vincent, Birnbaum
Midfielders: Cameron, Bradley, Nagbe, Trapp, Kitchen, Acosta, FJ, Pulisic, Lletget, Arriola, Finlay, Nguyen, Feilhaber
Forwards: Altidore, Dempsey, Wood, Agudelo, Morris, Sapong, Bruin, Davies

Notables left off: Rimando, Sean Johnson, Yarbird, lolvarado, Orozco, Castillo, Beasley, Beckerman, Jones, Diskerud Zusi, lead-touchinho, Wondo, Gordon
Next few on the preliminary 40: Bingham, Shea, Polster, Farrell, Campbell, Amarikwa, Rosenberry

 

You are probably right, I just think there are certain players that the NT has to phase out. These are players that should've been phased out after the WC, and now its almost two years later. Its time to try some new players.

 

My 40:

(4) Goalkeepers: Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, David Bingham, Ethan Horvath
...alternate: William Yarbrough
...missed out: Nick Rimando, Cody Cropper, Luis Robles

(8) Fullbacks: Fabian Johnson, DeAndre Yedlin, Timmy Chandler, Jorge Villafana, Tim Ream, Kellyn Acosta, Desevio Payne, Eric Lichaj
...alternates: Edgar Castillo, Brek Shea
...missed out: Greg Garza, Brad Evans, Andrew Farrell, Keegan Rosenberry, DaMarcus Beasley, Brandon Vincent, Eric Miller, Donny Toia, Amadou Dia

(6) Defenders: Matt Miazga, Omar Gonzalez, Matt Besler, John Brooks, Tim Parker, Steve Birnbaum
...alternates: Ventura Alvarado, Michael Orozco
...missed out: Matt Hedges, Jonathan Campbell, Cameron Carter-Vickers

(9) Defensive Midfielders: Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Kyle Beckerman, Geoff Cameron, Alfredo Morales, Danny Williams, Perry Kitchen, Wil Trapp, Emerson Hyndman
...alternate: Benny Feilhaber, Dax McCarty
...missed out: Matt Polster, Fatai Alashe, Caleb Stanko, Russell Canouse, Cristian Roldan

(8) Attacking Midfielders: Lee Nguyen, Christian Pulisic, Alejandro Bedoya, Graham Zusi, Darlington Nagbe, Ethan Finlay, Sebastian Lletget, Mix Diskerud
...alternate: Julian Green, Gedion Zelalem, Paul Arriola
...missed out: Luis Gil, Joe Corona, Jose Torres, Miguel Ibarra, Sacha Kljestan

(5) Forwards: Gyasi Zardes, Bobby Wood, Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Jordan Morris
...alternate: Rubio Rubin, Jerome Kiesewetter, CJ Sapong, Andrew Wooten, Jordan Siebatcheu
...missed out: Will Bruin Jack McInerney, Aron Johannsson, Chris Wondolowski, Mario Rodriguez, Khiry Shelton, Bjorn Johnsen, Quincy Amarikwa

 

And my 23...

GK: Howard, Guzan, Horvath
FB: Johnson, Chandler, Yedlin, Villafana
DF: Besler, Brooks, Miazga, Gonzalez
DM: Bradley, Cameron, Williams, Morales
AM: Pulisic, Bedoya, Finlay, Nagbe (Nguyen)
FW: Altidore, Dempsey, Wood, Zardes

 

It gives us the chance to complain and get false hope early, at multiple different points.

My 40-man:

GK: Howard, Guzan, Horvath, Melia

DF: Besler, Brooks, Gonzalez, Miazga, Birnbaum, Farrell, Hedges, Villafana, Yedlin, Lichaj, Shea, Ream, Chandler, Hollingshead

MF: Johnson, Bradley, Bedoya, Cameron, Pulisic, Lletget, Feilhaber, Finlay, Williams, Kitchen, Acosta, Hyndman, Arriola, Zusi

FW: Dempsey, Altidore, Wood, Johnsen, Sapong, Bruin, Amarikwa, Agudelo

note: don't want to push it with Nagbe and Hamid

 

I don't mind Nagbe being in the 40. He just shouldn't be in the 23 unless he's 100%.

 

My 40:

GK: Guzan, Horvath, Howard, Yarbrough

DF: Johnson, Shea, Yedlin, Payne, Ream, Acosta, Villafana, Lichaj, Besler, Miazga, Parker, Brooks, Birnbaum, Gonzalez

MF: Bradley, Beckerman, Williams, Feilhaber, Cameron, Kitchen, Bedoya, Nagbe, Pulisic, Lletget, Nguyen, Finlay, Zusi, Arriola

FW: Dempsey, Altidore, Morris, Wood, Agudelo, Kiesewetter, Dwyer, Wondolowski

 

I see most of the usual suspects. The guys I think you might have forgotten would be Flores, Rubin, Palmer-Brown, Redding or Moreno.

Not surprised you'd make up insulting nicknames for players you don't like. Even less surprising that you would continue to not rate Hyndman. Both of these say a lot about this list.

 

What I would do:



----------------------Demps
Johnson----------------------------Jozy
------------------Nguyen
-----------Bradley----------Cam
Ream----Besler-------Brooks-----DY
------------------Keeper

F: Wood Wondo
O/A M: Puli Bedoya

CM: Zusi Kitchen
CB: Gonzo, Birny
FG: Shea, Lichaj

Close calls -

Nagbe for either Zusi or Wondo
Becks for Kitchen (But, Kitchen was fantastic vs. Celtic - who, as has been pointed out has a massive payroll. As I said, I think Kitchen is kind of Holden lite).

 

I think we're ready for this set up:

---------Jozy/Deuce--------
--Pulisic-----------Wood---
------Bradley--Bedoya/Nagbe
Johnson--Cameron--Yedlin
---------Besler--Brooks------
--------------Guzan-----------

 

Dwyer's not yet eligible, but he should be eligible in early 2017.

 

It's not that I didn't rate Hyndman, but I just felt my 40 was the strongest. For me, I thought about Rubin, Flores and Brooks as well-- A lot of players

I see. I knew he had his green card since 2012, so I thought he was currently eligible. But with that, I would know swap his place on the 40 with Rubin.

 

Where did I mention Hyndman?

 

I was talking about a specific post. Your 40 looks pretty reasonable and understand preferences for different players... Id probably question Arriola and Keisswetter and would probably go with Rubin, if healthy which seems to be getting there, and even Rodriguez over these guys.

I'm curious... Why Flores?

 

It could be a preliminary 400 and Feilhaber still wouldn't be on it.

 

Come on, Benny would make a prelim 400. He was only voted by MLS players as the 10th most over rated player not the most over rated!

 

Or Lichaj

 

Well, as you know, Flores didn't make my 40 and that's pretty obvious. I just have a liking to North American based players is all.

 

Interesting call between Cropper and Horvath. Neither should see the field that much, so it's more educational for them. I suspect Cody might get the call over Nick (even though Nick's the better player right now) because Norway will be in season this summer while Cody will be in pre-season. Also, Cody might be looking for a new job as MK Dons look sure to be relegated.

 

Cropper's 23 and is a back up for a side that is at best MLS level. He's also looked shaky at times for USYNT's. I don't see why he's ahead of any number of back up keepers his age like Kempin, Horton, Worra, Miller, etc.

Horvath is actually a very good prospect who's now been a starter for nearly a year at the club level, has Europa League experience, and has done well for USYNT's. Its really not a question who to pick.

Maybe he doesn't pick either for Copa America, but Horvath should be ahead of the pack of recent YNT keepers in terms of a NT call up.

 

Nick? I thought his name was Ethan.

 

These years have flown by...

 

I struggled getting to 40 and really caring. It was even harder getting down to 23. Outside back and defensive midfielder are the two week spot and may end up having to drop Johnson back or push Cameron out there or into the midfield. I've added as many youngsters as I could don't expect many of them to get that many minutes. Parker, Williams, Finlay, and Zardes would be the next guys in line in case of injury or other reason to hold a guy out. Morris will probably be better served continuing to settle in at Seattle.

GK (3/4): Howard, Guzan, Horvath, Doesn't matter

CD (4/8): Besler, Brooks, Cameron, Miazga, Parker, Birnbaum, Gonzalez, Ream

WD (3/5): Yedlin (+2 of next 3), Payne, Shea, Villafana, Evans

CM (6/10): Bradley, Nagbe, Jones, Nguyen, Hyndman, Lletget, Williams, Kitchen, Trapp, Acosta

AW(4/7): Johnson, Bedoya, Pulisic, Rubin, Finlay, Zusi, Arriola,

FW (3/6): Dempsey, Altidore, Wood, Zardes, Wondolowski, Morris,