3rd Place Match 31: USA-COL - FEDORCZUK (URU)

Discussion in 'Copa América 2016 - Refereeing' started by bhooks, Jun 25, 2016.

  1. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Saturday June 25, 2016 - 8:00 (ET) - Glendale
    Referee: Daniel Fedorczuk (URU)

    Assistant Referee 1: Richard Trinidad (URU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Luis Sanchez (VEN)
    Fourth Official: Yadel Martinez (CUB)
    Reserve Assistant: Gabriel Victoria (PAN)

    This thread is for all pre-match, play-by-play and post-match discussion and analysis of the refereeing team. Per the forum guidelines (http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/welcome-forum-guidelines.2032251/), this thread will be heavily moderated. For more general or partisan discussions of the match, please go to the general Group thread or the individual team forums.
     
  2. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Country:
    United States
    Jones picked up his customary elbow first aerial challenge yellow card
     
  3. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    You know, if....... If..... USA and Columbia had won their semi-finals, the opening and closing games of Copa would have been between the same two teams. Does anyone know if that has ever happened in a major tournament?
     
  4. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Country:
    United States
    Arias fouls Orozco, gets booked. Arias moves his head towards Orozco, undetected by the officials. Orozco pushes Arias in the face. Orozco is sent off. Then, Arias does something (maybe just sitting there wasting time) and gets his second yellow. Interesting ending!
     
  5. gtownkeeper

    gtownkeeper New Member

    Mar 17, 2013
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The end result in this match is the same, so I think I'm justified in saying this is not simply sour grapes.

    That being said, I don't see how in the world you rationalize a straight red to Orozco but a 2ct to Arias. Both are contact to the face, both are unnecessary, and both meet the criteria we discussed earlier re: the Jones red card.

    So color me flummoxed as I try to understand a caution for a headbutt to an opponents face (and specifically the eye area).
     
    JasonMa repped this.
  6. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Country:
    United States
    I am guessing the officials did not see the headbutt. I know I didn't see it until the replay, and I think the ref would have been a lot quicker to give the 2Y if that was why. I could be wrong though!
     
  7. gtownkeeper

    gtownkeeper New Member

    Mar 17, 2013
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Looking at the match report posted on ESPN, they have Arias as receiving both a caution (#1) and an ejection in the lead course of that play. Perhaps the yellow was for the original foul and the red for what occurred afterwards?

    IMHO, it could have been handled better. If you're going to card Arias, card him immediately when he stands up. And then how do you not smell that dust-up from a mile away when you see them walking towards one another and jawing at one another.

    Just mark me down as unimpressed with that whole episode.
     
  8. stangspritzring

    stangspritzring Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    NorMD
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    United States
    Colombia's #5 seemed to be invisible to the CR...He was a walking example of PI from halfway through the 1st half. The CR called tight, then swallowed his whistle, and when he loses control in extra time, ends it on the spot rather than extend play for the 2 minutes Colombia ate up in that period. Sigh.
     
  9. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    The headbutt should have been a straight red, if the shove was. Ref got it wrong.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     

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