Rumor: 2026 Bid in Jeopardy

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by manfromgallifrey91, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
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    Heck, why not just go for 2050? Most of us may well have lost our chess matches with Death by then, and in the Abyss no one can hear you scream.
     
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  2. Fighting Illini

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    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    If 2026 goes down, the US must never "bid" again. FIFA knows that the US offers the best tournament in history at the box office and in terms of fan experience and fan engagement all across the world. They should also know that that opportunity is only available on our terms. If they want it, they can come get it.

    That will probably never happen, but playing ball with these criminals is a fool's errand. They're aggressively doing everything they can to destroy their golden goose anyway, so who cares?

    The United bid should have walked away when the FIFA congress snuck in the Morocco bid at the 11th hour. It was plain as day what that would mean.
     
  3. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
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  4. Gamecock14

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    #254 Gamecock14, Apr 5, 2018
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    The French are acting in their best interest. With the proximity and severe lack of facilities in Morocco plus increase in teams, I expect that they will get quite a number of training camps / base camps in their country plus a boost to the local economy without having to build anything or bid for anything. Same with Spain, Portugal, and Monaco.

    If I was the city of club in Lisbon, Sevilla, Cadiz, Malaga, Marabella, Cordoba, Granada, Murcia, Valencia, or Madrid ... that's going to be a pay day. Plus, the flights are less than two hours to pretty much anywhere in Morrocco.

    Three hours or less includes Monaco, Nice, Marseille, Montepelier, Toulouse, Barcelona, Bilbao




    Plus, they are not the only ones. The island nations want their money.

     
  5. Robert Borden

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    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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    You're funny. I think they could care less about facing the USMNT A team or not. Besides, with the league of Nations, this won't happen again.

    They can vote for whoever they want by the way.
     
  6. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    1. We need to start acting in our best interest as well. Tell France and any other country that if they vote for Morocco that they can have all their clubs play preseason games there as well. No need for PSG to come to the US each year for a money grab when Morocco is so close and convenient.

    2. If the island minnows vote against a WC in their on confederation then that should be the final straw for trying to merge North American and Central American mainland with South America. Let the island nations battle it out with the rest of the world's islands for the 1/2 spot.
     
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  7. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
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    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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    Canada
    Yeah, because that's exactly the way to go to change other nation's negative view of the US. :rolleyes:

    See above

    and below


    How about treating them right, having a more inclusive attitude towards them and respecting them going forward? o_O
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
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    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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  10. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
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    Can you specify what that means? They're included in Champions League, they'll get steady games in the Nations League, they got 4 slots in the last Gold Cup and will get 1+whatever they earn through Nations League qualifying for the next one, they get a ton of CONCACAF money for very little output, Haiti's women's team is basically funded by American benefactors, they regularly play friendlies and qualifiers in the US that make them a lot more money than matches on the islands would. What else do they need?
     
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  11. Robert Borden

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    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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    All of those are pretty recent (inclusiveness-wise). Victor Montagliani did made major changes in how CONCACAF runs the region but he's Canadian and the bid is viewed as a US bid, not a "United bid". I think they would back anyone in the region except the US at this point. The shithole comments without a following apology made matters worse.

    They accumulated decades of anger so I think it will take time and the USSF to take a step back for awhile (which seems to be somewhat the case) since Montagliani's election.
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

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    If presidential politics mattered that much, the US would be hosting 2022.
     
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  13. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't know why most Americans only see this from their own point of view but let me give you an insight on the other side of the argument.

    For most developing countries, FIFA is the ONLY organization where they have that much power in the grand scheme of things. It's their only shot to stick it to the US (until the next solo bid) without any chance of retaliation (which would be silly). So yes, giving everyone 1 vote totally made the bid selection very political. Most of those nations don't really have that division of sphere of competency. Governments usually run everything and can easily tell their FA who to vote for, something that unlikely to happen in North America and some parts of Europe.

    Outside of the FIFA umbrella, they are pretty much powerless in everything else and it's not like the US have an (anti-bullying policy in regards to those nations).

    You might not like the answer but that's how the world works in 2018...(FIFA wise of course). That's unlikely to change as soccer (the 5th or 6th or even lower) most important sport/event (Golf? NASCAR? College sports?) in the US. That's unlikely to prevent any US president from sleeping at night nor change their diplomacy policies over night just for soccer.

    So, don't know what to tell you...

    Besides, FIFA could still disqualify Morocco on technical merits. At this point, it's the only way the US bid wins. If Morocco is accepted, United 2026 lose. Pray that their bid gets turn down by FIFA. It's no coincidence that nations are coming out early to support Morocco as it's a mean to pressure FIFA from disqualifying Morocco.

    Let's see who blinks first
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    If this is a Miss Sympathy contest, then we're in big trouble. Once my father told me, "if someone hates you, it's their problem; if everybody hates you, it's your problem."
     
  15. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    might as well changed the name of the thread to '2026 WC will be in Morocco'
     
  16. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I do get that this is a chance to stick it to the US for a lot of countries with who are (legitimately for the most part) unhappy with US policy and actions, but I really doubt losing the WC will even be noticed by the current powers that be. I'd bet most Trump supporters still think of soccer as a libtard, globalist sport that they're forced to pay attention to for a week or two every four years. (Didn't Ann Coulter post/write something about how soccer is an inferior sport because people don't use their hands?)
     
  17. An Unpaved Road

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    The World Cup does seem like an even smaller deal than usual with the XFL soon to return. They should nab the Million Dollar Game if they really want to stick it to us.
     
  18. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Am I the only one that thinks the combined three country gimmick looks like a solution trying to please everyone and ending up pleasing no one? It looks more like a proposal designed to check enough boxes to game the system than a proposal born of truly wanting to host for sporting reasons. Of course, that's the reality for many bids, but you at least have to sell it as something else.
     
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  19. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    Well US, Mex, and Canada should pull support for hosting future gold cups. Concacaf $ will dry up for places like Dominica and maybe they'll think twice about shunning their region.
     
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  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    If Europe hates the US so much I think we should pull our bases. Let them defend themselves.
     
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  21. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
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    Jul 24, 2015
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    There are as many socialist liberals who deem sports as pursuits of stupidity. This is one part where the majority of everyone (republicans and democrats and centrists) agrees, even if they dont follow soccer they watch the WC. And while some countries are unhappy, others are happier and more supportive. Like someone mentioned above, one vote per country brings in politics more so, and concerns of bribery go up because of how hard it would be to track,

    Morocco will score low on the technical side (stadiums, city support, population, transportation) but it wont matter. If we lose the bid I really do think Carlos has some tough questions to answer.
     
  22. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    Levski Sofia
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    United States
    I'm all on board the Morocco train.

    Let's go, Morocco.

    Hopefully I can attend. Go spend some time in France and catch a few games. Sounds good to me. Much rather go there than smoggy hell hole like LA.
     
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  23. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
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    People like her who do nothing but mock soccer should step out on the field and say that to peoples' face. See how quickly she'd be beaten senseless.
     
  24. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Ann Coulter, Jim Rome, Keith Olbermann. This sport must be the best if all those clowns get pissy about it.
     
  25. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Yea I’m not really sure we need the League of Nations or whatever if we don’t get unanimous votes from our Region. The Carribean can form its own Federation and see how that works out.
     
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