2022 WC Qatar: Worldwide Opponents Watch [all R's]

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I think one of the reasons is that in South America, being only 10 countries, they know each other very well and know how to nullify each other's best weapons, given that knowledge.

    In Europe, with 50+ countries, the big teams don't play each other all the time, so there's a limited knowledge of the rival. In C-BOL, even Bolivia knows how to isolate Messi. And guys like Higuain and Agüero have failed to live up to their reputation with the NT, wasting easy chances time and again, usually served in a platter by Leo.
     
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  2. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    I think a big part of Messi's Argentina issues are down to the coaches he's had. A lot of guys who just didn't know how to use him, and Diego Maradonna - this man. His current coach, Scaloni, has never previously managed a team, ever. He was Sampaoli's assistant and took over as co-caretaker when Sampaoli resigned, and then was just given the job, full-time. He's basically like Dave Sarachan, but less qualified.

    Messi's most successful years with Argentina were when he had competent, experienced coaches, like Alejandro Sabella and, uh, Tata Martino. Yeah, they lost three finals - but at least they made it that far. It's been a mess otherwise..
     
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  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Macau is the 6th team eliminated from World Cup contention and the first to come from weird circumstances .

    They won the only leg of their playoff against Sri Lanka 1-0, but refused to travel for the away leg citing safety concerns after a terrorist attack in Sri Lanka.

    FIFA awarded Sri Lanka with an automatic 3-0 victory which gave them the playoff win
     
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  4. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    The last 20 minutes of this CONMEBOL final would fit right in to CONCACAF.
     
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  5. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, that it excuses the USSF's incompetence, but it's comforting to remember that there are other major federations out there that are equally shambolic, if not worse. How can you fail to win any major tournament with arguably the greatest player of all time?
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Right now, taking the Elo Ratings (my favorite, and the one where the FIFA Ranking will eventually end, mark my words), for the 31 teams qualifying, if we assigned berths based on such ratings, we'd have:

    20 from UEFA (36%)
    7 from CONMEBOL (70%)
    2 from AFC (4.3%): Iran & ROK
    1 from CONCACAF (2.4%): Mexico
    1 from CAF (1.8%): Senegal
    0 from OFC

    Only one country in the Top 20 is neither UEFA (13) nor C-BOL (6): Mexico, #15.
     
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  7. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AFC Second Round Qualifying Groups Drawn:

    Group A: China, Syria, Philippines, Maldives, Guam
    Group B: Australia, Jordan, Taiwan, Kuwait, Nepal
    Group C: Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, Hong Kong, Cambodia
    Group D: Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Yemen, Singapore
    Group E: Bangladesh, Oman, India, Afghanistan, Qatar
    Group F: Japan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Myanmar, Mongolia
    Group G: U.A.E., Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia
    Group H: South Korea, Lebanon, North Korea, Turkmenistan, Sri Lanka

    Group winners and best four runners up qualify for Round 3 and the Asian Cup (which is why Qatar is in this despite hosting in 2022). It's unclear (to me anyway) what happens if they come in first or second as far as other teams progressing to Round 3 though.
     
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  8. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But then it wouldn't be the World Cup would it? It would then be the Best Cup. World Cup has to have some teams that aren't as good as others to involve every continent. If Uefa's say top 15 can't win it the surely those last five in the top 31 wouldn't either. Then there is the part where it's hard for confederations to raise their ratings if they only play other teams from their confederation who are rated poorly.
     
  9. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's unclear to me as well. The most logical solution is for the fifth-best runner-up to take Qatar's place. But soccer confederations do weird things sometimes.
     
  10. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 14 winners of those will join the top 24 African teams in round 2. Round 2 will consist of 10 groups of 4, with the group winners advancing to a playoff for Africa's 5 qualifying spots
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Top 26 actually, to make 40.

    10 group winners to a single playoff home/away means some strong teams will miss on Qatar.
     
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  13. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Africa always has at least one team that should've made it, and one team that shouldn't have. Their qualifying format is extremely unforgiving.

    Remember how we were set to qualify in 2017 despite having a single away win all throughout the qualifiers? Yeah, that doesn't fly in CAF. One or two games of bad form or bad luck will eliminate you.
     
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  14. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    This is what will happen. The next best runner up takes the spot in the next round if Qatar qualifies as either a group winner or best runner up. Both Qatar and that team will be qualified for the next Asian Cup. If Qatar don't make the top 12 they will enter the next round of Asian Cup qualifying.
     
  15. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Asia kicked off Round 2 today. With the exception of Group E, the top seeded team in each group got the first matchday off. The 8 group winners plus the 4 best runner ups will advance to the next round.

    Group A saw both home teams lose, as Guam fell 1-0 to The Maldives and The Philippines fell 5-2 to Syria. China and Syria will likely be competing for the top 2 spots here.

    In Group B, Jordan conceded late, but managed to hang on to a 2-1 lead in Taipei. Kuwait rolled to a 7-0 victory at home over Nepal. The Aussies would seem to be heavy favorites here.

    In Group C, Iraq and Bahrain will likely be battling for second place with Iran in the group. Bahrain let 3 crucial points slip away at home when they conceded an 85th minute goal to The Iraqis. Cambodia only managed a draw at home against Hong Kong.

    In Group D, Uzebkistan have painfully choked away qualification in the last 2 cycles, and this time have stumbled right out of the gate. They fall 2-0 away to The Palestinians. Singapore scored a 52nd minute equalizer to earn a 2-2 draw at home against Yemen. The Saudis are favorites in this group.

    In Group E, The Qataris take part in this group since Asia's World Cup Qualifiers double as Asian Cup Qualifiers. They cruise 6-0 at home against Afghanistan. India lead most of the way at home against Oman, before they conceded twice in the final eight minutes for a 2-1 defeat. Massive blow to what were already slim chances.

    In Group F, Japan are massive favorites, though the race for second seems fairly open. Both home teams hold serve as Tajikistan picks up a 1-0 win over Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia picks up a 1-0 win over Myanmar.

    In Group G, Thailand would appear to be co favorites with The UAE, however they only managed a surprising scoreless draw at home against Vietnam. Indonesia blew a 2-1 lead at home to Malaysia. Malaysia scored the game winner six minutes into stoppage time.

    In Group H, North Korea held serve at home 2-0 over Lebanon. Turkmenistan managed to snag 3 points on the road after a 2-0 win in Sri Lanka. South Korea are likely the heavy favorites in this group.
     
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  16. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Africa kicked off their opening round as well. 11 of the 14 opening round ties began today. Gambia vs Angola and Comoros vs Togo will begin tomorrow. Botswana vs Malawi will begin on Saturday.

    Ethiopia 0 - 0 Lesotho

    Somalia 1-0 Zimbabwe

    Eritrea 1-2 Namibia

    Burundi 1-1 Tanzania

    Djibouti 2-1 Eswatini

    Liberia 3-1 Sierra Leone (Liberia scored twice in the final 10 minutes)

    Sao Tome and Principe 0 - 1 Guniea-Bissau

    South Sudan 1 -1 Equatorial Guinea

    Chad 1 -3 Sudan

    Seychelles 0-3 Rwanda


    The game of the round was Somalia stunning Zimbabwe. Somalia are tied for the worst ranked team in Africa while Zimbabwe was one spot short in The FIFA Rankings from skipping this round entirely. That is Somalia's first non friendly win in 11 years, and their first World Cup Qualifying win ever. Unsurprisingly The Somali's cant host home games, so this was played in Djibouti.
     
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  17. trafficjam304

    trafficjam304 Member

    May 28, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hoping for Guam to pull an upset somewhere
     
  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just wondered how travel was in the African Qualifying. Took the first one on the list above Lesotho to Ethiopia. 3,759 miles and 85 hours if you drive. I'm guessing they didn't go by bus. Flying might be hard on poor countries though.
     
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  19. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've lived on continent for 6 years+. The worst thing here is the proliferation of continental tournaments (2 AFCONs, 2 CHANs per cycle) which just reduces the allocation of money available.
     
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  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Africa and N America both need to go down to one continental tournament every four years like S America and Europe.
     
  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Angola gets the away win in Gambia 1-0. Togo gets a draw on the road in Comoros.
     
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  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Germany still recovering, just lost 2-4 to the Dutch in Hamburg (Euro quals).

    Croatia is looking like a Top 7 team right now, destroyed Slovakia 0-4 away.
     
  23. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the way the US is going, they'll be joining Macau as number 7.
     
  24. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Might as well close this thread.
     
  25. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sierra Leone earns a penalty 4 minutes into stoppage time, but it gets saved. LIberia advance 3-2 on aggregate.

    Lesotho and Ethiopia draw in both legs, but Ethiopia gets the away goal to advance.

    Burundi and Tanzania saw both legs finish 1-1, and Tanzania wins 3-0 on penalties to advance.

    Equatorial Guinea gets a 72nd minute winner to eliminate South Sudan 2-1 on aggregate.
     
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