2020 Roster Thread

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  1. Jaybir

    Jaybir Member+

    Feb 24, 2014
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Bottom line for me on Adi - It's the first time in many years we actually have a legitimate backup striker - other than the ones we had starting for us of course.

    In general, I have no problem with a coach (or boss for that matter) bringing someone on board he/she has experience with. They know what they are getting and whether or not they will fit/fill a role within the larger vision. Personal history is a factor that improves the odds a bit, given every new signing is a risk and an unknown. Granted, the Guzman disaster doesn't support my philosophy. But it was remedied.

    Nothing is permanent and we kick things off in a month. I'm glad Adi's on the roster vs. not.
     
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  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are lucky. If. It's like being a left-handed pitcher in baseball. They carry value often in excess of their ability.

    Strikers are a funny thing. You really can't coach it--either a player has the knack or he doesn't (you can get better with work, however, but to quote "Chariots of Fire": "You can't put in what God left out").

    Everybody needs strikers--that's why they get more chances than the average player.
     
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  3. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So did George Best. In the long run, it was problematic in many ways. But when he was on....and in the short term....
     
  4. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow.

    Where in there did I say anything about not questioning a damn thing? That's just a ridiculous reaction to a post wherein all I did was point out that a) this is what ambitious management and ownership looks like and b) some of these deals will work out and some will not.

    If you disagree with either position, feel free to dig right in, pal.

    But it's simply absurd to claim that I said no one was "allowed to question" things. That's ridiculous, totally false and, frankly, stupid.
     
  5. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My first pro team I followed was the old Atoms. They had an interesting combo--a striker, Jim Fryatt, who was 6' 2", and his partner, Andy Provan, who was 5' 4". They called him "The Flea". Drove defenders nuts. Size is nice up top.
     
  6. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone can, and does, question anything and everything. There are just some that, based on nothing more than a dislike of the coach, tend to go overboard with criticism when it really isn't warranted.

    I, for one, an glad we finally have an owner that seems to be willing to spend and a GM that isn't hamstrung by a cheap-ass or absentee owner. All coaches get fired eventually and I don't know how long Porter will be around but if he and Bez think a player will be a good addition, or at a minimum is simply worth giving an opportunity to, I'm not going to poo-poo that unless it fails.
     
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  7. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I can’t believe we’re arguing about a backup striker who’s scored nearly 60 MLS goals.
     
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  8. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ain't done **** for us yet. lol
     
  9. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's True.GIF
     
  10. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What? I can't think of anyone here who does that. o_O

    I still don't like the Adi move until I'm proven wrong (which could definitely happen), but I agree with this sentiment that you and Bill seem to be expressing: Better to have management that will sometimes fail because they swing and miss than to sit around and wait for stuff to land in your lap.
     
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  11. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nothing all that new or surprising From Arace in the dispatch on Trapp:

    “Midfielder Wil Trapp, the captain, has long been in search of a ticket to Europe. No news there. Nor is it news that Trapp has been on the trading block. Rumors about a deal with Vancouver ran hot a few weeks back, but have since cooled. Stay tuned.”


    https://www.dispatch.com/sports/202...-crew-under-tim-bezbatchenko-and-caleb-porter
     
  12. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is your weekend going, Kyle?
     
  13. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And out of those 60, he scored 1 in the last 1.5 seasons.
     
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  14. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course I want a FO that makes big signings, who doesn’t? Signing this particular player isn’t wise IMO. Resources could have been used better.
     
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  15. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This isn't a big signing. There's no reason think it's tied up much in the way of resources.
     
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  16. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You give everyone this Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm routine, but you can find the space between the ribs with a sharp knife as well as anybody around
     
  17. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bingo
     
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  18. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And theres no reason to think that they paid a dime more than what that production is worth.
     
  19. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one knows that until the number is public.

    People have written on this very forums that they’ve read no one else was interested. Other people have written on this very forum that they read others were indeed interested. There could have been a bidding war, or not. Who knows?

    We could have paid the minimum. We could have paid 25%. We could have paid 50%. We don’t know. That number has a huge bearing on how this move will be viewed.

    And it can’t be had both ways, that the dude is a prolific stud we got for pennies, and that we were the only team that was interested. If he’s so good, surely others bid for him, and we didn’t pay the minimum. And if we did pay the minimum, and no one else could be bothered, what does that say that everyone gave the idea a hard pass but one team?

    The number is a mystery for now.
     
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  20. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It can absolutely be the dude turns into a prolific stud we got for pennies because no one else was willing to take the chance.

    It could also be that we overpaid in a bidding war and he sucks.

    We won't know until the season moves along, but any of the combinations are possible.
     
  21. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Bill Archer KHT

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  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love me some Marcello Carrera, but hate getting nailed by a kht hat trick
     
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  23. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the number us a mystery for now.

    But, no, there could not have been a bidding war.

    Broadly speaking, when does MLS ever develop rules that allow bidding wars for players? That would be never.

    But more specifically, if you read the procedure about how waivers for a player with a guaranteed contract works, it basically says that teams have 48 hours to submit a number to the league (i.e., the salary number the club is willing to pay for the player) and, generally, the team with the highest offers gets the player. The player's former team is on the hook to pay the rest of the salary.

    So the Crew made a bid and were the highest bidder. They may also have been the only bidder. Who knows? Regardless, they sent a number to the league, and that's the salary they'll be paying Adi in 2020. Period. FCC's owners will pay the rest.
     
  24. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Would you prefer this?

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  25. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    The lack of self awareness in this post is something to behold. Its been a consistent strain of one note praise from you for any and every move that the Crew has made in the offseason while leveling personal insults at those who dare disagree. Whereas midway through last year you consistently and vocally questioned Porter's coaching ability, you now offer unadulterated praise and disown yourself from former positions.

    It's been quite the transformation, pal.
     

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