2020 Olympic Qualifying Team

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by AutoPenalti, Mar 29, 2016.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    All of their '15 guys are still in Liga MX, some playing, some stuck with the reserves. Considering I rank MX right below the Euro Top 10 and the Brazilian/Argentine leagues, that's something & quite a bit more successful than being stuck in MLS.

    Marco Bueno is the one that finally managed to leave for Europe, but he's playing there in a league much weaker than the MX, the Finnish one, looking for a chance to climb I guess.
     
  2. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Because people like cheering for the USA kit regardless of who's wearing it. Is the role of the USSF just to represent the main national team or is it to grow the sport in the USA?
     
  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But see you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say where they could instead use the money only that they should and likely do prioritize it and that tournament is likely not a high priority.
     
  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    In other countries maybe. In the USA it's all about the money.

    Since taking part in the PanAm Games is going to cost the fed instead of producing any money, well, we're not going.

    And people are ok with it because it makes sense under the capitalist paradigm.
     
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do any youth tournaments make money?
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Nope, but you _have_ to take part or FIFA punishes you.
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it's not just FIFA events that we participate in

    I agree with you that cost probably played a role in The US not going, and I'm annoyed that they made that decision, but I imagine timing and player availability played a larger role.

    We send our youth teams to random international friendly tournaments all the time. To simply write this off as a money issue seems a bit unfair.
     
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  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I imagine timing and player availability played THE role in why we're not attending this event.

    We can reshape that argument if it makes people feel better. The USSF chose not to invest the money required to send a "C" U23 team to the PanAm games.

    I think we should also wait to see what we do instead before we complain about not going to the PanAm games.............................
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I think we'd all like to know what U.S. Soccer's plans for the U23 program between now and October are.
     
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  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    An explanation of why the male U23 isn't going would have been nice. I know in any other country in the region they give a reason when they qualify to some tournament but have to stay home at the last moment, which is the case with us here.

    But, then, in other countries in the region there are more people keeping an eye on their soccer NTs. Since we're just a little group of fans the fed doesn't even need to make money, they feel no need to explain anything.
     
  11. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While some European players might be available for U-23 Olympic qualifying, if Kreis had to assemble a purely domestic-based team, it would actually be pretty good. FAR FAR better than the two previous cycles.

    ----------Ferreira---Ebobisse---
    ----------------Pomykal---------
    -----------Yueil-------Mihailovic
    ------------------Durkin---------
    ---Gutjahr--Trusty--Robinson--Cannon
    ------------Marcinkowski-------

    Bench (All those in the mix without cuts yet): Ferreira, Sands, Cerrillo, McKenzie, Glad, Aaronson, Araujo, Lindsey, Busio, Lewis, Saucedo, Lennon, Rennicks, Bello, Ochoa.
     
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Let's not forget the team that lost to Honduras had CCV (now Swansea), Miazga (now Reading), Steffen (soon to be ManCity), Trapp (regular NT starter & captain), Morris (NT guy), Hyndman (somewhere in England), Polster (Rangers), Gil (not playing in MX), Horvath (current Brugge), Gboly (SPL), Kiesewetter (Stuttgart back then). Still, somehow, Herzog managed to lose to a Honduras whose only notable player was Choco Lozano.
     
  13. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    The worst problem was underestimating the rival.
     
  14. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our player pool has much more pro experience now than that group did then.

    Starters against Honduras in 2015, with notes on their careers to that point:

    Horvath - had taken over as starter at Molde for the first time four months prior

    Okwuonu - played about a dozen USL games and ~100 MLS minutes

    Miazga - amid his breakout 2015 MLS season

    CCV - had never played a pro game

    Gil - most experienced player, was a rotational starter for RSL in 2015

    Serna - in and out of Colorado's lineup, played less in 2015; he's still never played more minutes than he did in 2014

    Kiesewetter - had made two Bundesliga appearances for Stuttgart, but was never very good

    Trapp - had become MLS regular in mid-2013. Had missed first half of 2015 with concussion issues

    Hyndman - 9 career games in the Championship, but hadn't played at all in 2015 for reasons I forget (injury/contract dispute)

    Polster - MLS rookie, starter

    Morris - college player
     
  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  16. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    That's a pretty funny line.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Who knows...……………

    BTW, that Honduras team did really well at the Olympics, and ended up playing in the Bronze medal match. So that team wasn't crap. They drew with Argentina. Beat South Korea and Algeria. Lost tight games to Portugal and Nigeria.

    And just so everybody is on the same page, after losing to Honduras we then played a loaded Colombia side in the playoff. We drew 1-1 and lost 2-1. Not the crime of the century. I remember the starting CB combination for Colombia in that series was Davinson Sanchez and Yerry Mina. Talent all over the field, and we stood toe-to-toe with them. [Of course, we didn't have our two best defenders. in qualifying: John Brooks and DeAndre Yedlin.]
     
  18. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quick question, when does Olympic Qualifying start? And do we know the Central American/Caribbean teams yet? I can't find much on Wikipedia...
     
  19. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    October, rumored to be in Costa Rica though they're making The Ticos qualify so they may be waiting for that before an official announcement.

    In The Caribbean there's 4 groups of 4 and the 4 group winners will advance to a playoff. The 2 winners of that will qualify for the final tournament.

    In Central America there's 6 teams vying for 3 spots (Belize isn't taking part). Costa Rica will play Guatemala, Honduras will play Nicaragua, and El Salvador will play Panama. Those are all 2 legged playoffs and the 3 winners will qualify for the final tournament.

    All that will happen in July
     
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  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Makes sense because the cream is already skewing to the younger half of the cycle. Pulisic and McK are late 98s, Adams is a 99. Not one 97 has come close to matching them.
     
  21. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
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  22. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    What a surprise to see Akale and Koreniuk on the list. Although Koreniuk is having a great season with LA II along with Zubak.
    Another BIG surprise is to see Reyna. I think that the inclusion of Gio is excellent but also something strange.
    Something curious is that Benji Michel was in the preselection of Haiti for the Gold Cup and now he is with the U23 team.
     
  23. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Including Reyna would be excellent? Nah, too young and inexperienced for me. u23 is nearly a grown man's tournament. He isn't physically there yet. And no Miles Robinson? I guess he is getting major minutes at Atlanta and they would refuse to release him. But crazy that Sargent isn't going to this, if this turns out to be true. I am not understanding at all what is going on with him. Would Werder balk at him attending? Maybe so.
     
  24. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Interesting roster.

    - Is Lennon going to play right back? I don’t know who else will.

    - I thought Saucedo was a striker. Where does he fit in midfield?

    - There are definitely players from the last U23 camp that are being given a break. I think the ones that trained with the Senior team recently are a little ahead right now. The camp here will identify some backups.

    - It’s great to see Akale. I think he’s going to impress.

    - Yueill will miss his Open Cup game for this which is a little weird.

    - Good practice for Reyna I guess but there’s no way he makes this Olympic squad. I think this just keeps him practicing since he’s still “unattached”
     
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  25. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Gio Reyna's club status is still unttached.
     

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