2019 U20 Worldcup

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Majin, Feb 24, 2019.

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  1. siva66

    siva66 Member+

    Apr 7, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Just checking in on the meltdown.
     
  2. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    There isn’t one

    Anyone who watched qualifying knew this team was mediocre
     
  3. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    We have very short midfielders to play a static 4-4-2.
     
  4. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    LOL

    Did you forgot to do your daily morning walks again old man?

    Let me help you breathe easily

    1...2....3...


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  5. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What a waste of DVR space. A special FU! to Fox Sports 2. They went to commercial as the teams were coming out of the tunnel, but made sure to come back to programming as soon as the Mexican anthem was over. HDSPM!
     
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  6. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    It's not.

    You're making blanket assumptions that are wrong based on the simple fact that it's two distinct tactical approaches. The youth teams play a flat 4-4-2 and have been doing so for quite a while now, at least 4 youth cycles. Osorio played a 4-3-3 with two interiores that were tasked with occupying the central channels, two wing forwards and a 9 that would often occupy space outside of his own zone. The youth teams, like Rafa said, play completely different. They play with a two man midfield in which there are two clearly defined roles, two wingers and two forwards that often roam in the midfield looking for the ball.

    The biggest difference being that the youth teams have a clear expectation for the fullbacks to attack whereas Osorio completely avoided that.

    There is no logical way to explain your assumption that these youth teams play the same way as Osorio's Mexico did.

    None of this matters since we are mostly comparing the senior NT with youth teams where the talent varies and there are other factors that come into play when it comes to on the field performance.
     
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  7. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    I've said it twice and I'll say it again...Fuera Ramirez and Chima!

    Not sure how these guys are coaching at this level.

    They're awful, must have something incriminating on the higher ups.
     
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  8. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Fortunately Japan and Ecuador tied. So Mexico just needs to win out
     
  9. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If anything this means Japan is better than we thought, Ecuador were favorites coming into this
     
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  10. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  11. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    stupid of monterrey to not release jonathan gonzalez

    italy was missing its best players too smh.
     
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  12. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No Jairo Torres or Marcel Ruiz
     
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  13. superm

    superm Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    This is what I don't understand, these players don't make the U20, but make the U22.
     
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  14. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Translation: I have nothing to back my stupid argument.

    It just exposes the problem that a lot of the criticisms come from people a lot dumber than the coach so their criticism are pointless.

    The only positive is that they are styles that Mexico is more accustomed to playing and their might be hope in that. But of course the problem (which none of the TV Mexican press picked up on) is that these teams will attack unlike Italy, who sits back, and there lies our weakest link. Hopefully Mexico's individual attack can do better against teams that don't defend quite as well.
     
  15. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I don't get why Ruiz was never called but it might've been a blessing for him. I even asked Ramirez in Bradenton and he said he was going to consider him but it was BS (although he didn't have a good season). Torres got called up and didn't make the cut. I thought he picked it up late and hopefully he improves because he was a bust in the U17 World Cup, so it's not a new problem.
     
  16. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    and somehow Lainez is here lol,
     
  17. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    New Zealand crushed Honduras 5-0 in their debut. So either Honduras really suck or New Zealand is a good team and that last friendly loss wasn't as bad as I thought it was.
     
  18. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mix of both
     
  19. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    None
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Kinda seems like CONCACAF development is falling behind. The nads lost vs Ukraine too.
     
  20. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It's always good to see Honduras goleado, but it looks bad to lost to New Zealand that way (also in the seniors side).

    Who knows if Panama can get the first point for the zone.
     
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  21. TheDude47

    TheDude47 Member+

    Jun 17, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I usually follow Wiso’s podcast religiously but he and his crew made the point that Lainez and JJ going to u20 was the best decision... That seemed beyond stupid to me. This team is just not clicking so why waste the time. Just send them to the GC. In JJ’s case he was an instrumental part of a liguilla final team. Wtf?
     
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  22. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    I'm glad you had some fresh air in ya.
     
  23. Atlas 51

    Atlas 51 Red Card

    Oct 25, 2015
    Tarzana
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    All eyez on Macias, low keep Real Betis be thinking we bought the wrong Mexican.
     
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  24. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We are also missing Carlos Vargas and Idekel Domingez
     
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  25. rich loc

    rich loc Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I thought Lainez had an underrated game and Macias an overrated one. I'd give Lainez a 6.8, Macias 7.2, but the way people talk about it, Macias was a 9.5 and Lainez a 4.
     

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