2019 U20 Worldcup

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  1. El Falso 9

    El Falso 9 Member+

    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  2. El Falso 9

    El Falso 9 Member+

    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    we got the group of death lets see how Mexico stacks up..

    Ecuador won the CONMEBOL u20 tournament led by a very good Leonardo Campana the top scorer of the tournament

    they only lost twice in the tournament both losses came from Uruguay

    they had 4 playes in the tournaments best 11

    Leonardo Campana FW
    Gonzalo Plata MF
    Jackson Porozo DF
    Diego Palacios DF

    Italy were runners up in the Euro u19's only losing to Portugal in the final AET 4-3

    led by Moise Kean

    they had 6 players considered the best of the tournament
    Alessandro Plazini
    Raoul Bellanova
    Davide Bettella
    Sandro Tonali
    Moise Kean
    Nicolo Zaniolo

    Japan only lost to the eventual champions Saudi Arabia in the AFC
    in the semifinals

    Jeon Se-Jin was their top scorer with 5 goals
    Koki Saito was their 2nd top scorer with 3 goals
     
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  3. superm

    superm Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Who does Mexico have?
     
  4. Atlas 51

    Atlas 51 Red Card

    Oct 25, 2015
    Tarzana
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Diego Lainez, JJ Macias, Jonathan Gonzalez, Carlos Vargas and Marcel Ruiz.
    Also maybe Joao Maleck.

    Also what every happen to the Samurai Azteca kid from Barcelona youth Ryuken Nishizawa? He's a 1999.
     
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  5. El Falso 9

    El Falso 9 Member+

    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ryuken never panned out IIRC don't think he plays anymore, Paolo Medina is also eligible for this age group but he's been struggling to get minutes on Monterrey's u20's.

    and for Maleck his knee injury really screwed him over.
    Don't think he'll find his form in time when the likes of Roberto de la Rosa, Daniel Lopez, Christopher Trejo, Cesar Huerta are doing better than him rn.
     
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  6. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    INDIANA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Anyone know where to buy tickets?
     
  7. Blue_Demon

    Blue_Demon Member+

    Aug 20, 2006
    TX
    Club:
    Club León
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  8. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    U20 list for the World Cup is out. Personally I hate it but it seems Mexican club got into it and wrecked it. Let see them if it goes as bad as it seems it might.

     
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  9. beat junky

    beat junky BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    RIP in pieces...
     
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  10. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    Chivas Rayadas De Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    inB4 the clowns that say liga mediocre mx is above playing in this "amateur" :rolleyes: tournament as if the Euro club scouts' eyes arent on this prestigious competition, liga muy x sure isnt on their radar
     
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  11. fateswarning189

    Jan 27, 2016
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    jonathan gonzales isnt even on the bench for tonight's CCL match
     
  12. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I think he's injured.
     
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  13. beat junky

    beat junky BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    Indeed he’s out injured.
     
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  14. OneZoro

    OneZoro Member

    May 11, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Quien falto aparte de Jonathan Gonzalez?
     
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  15. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  16. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What another absolutely horrible use of Lainez

    Ecuador and Italy are going to rag doll this team
     
  17. Henruchito

    Henruchito Member

    Real Madrid
    Mexico
    Jun 10, 2017
    siempre es lo mismo hay varios chavos que debutaron en copa mx o la liga que dan la edad , pero es obvio que ya hay un grupo escogido por el dt y se pierden muchos talentos la oportuidad de los visores europeos , no mas recuerden el caso del tecatito , fue excluido de la sub 17 por darle cabida al hijo de del ex jugador daniel guzman hace ya tiempo
     
  18. El Falso 9

    El Falso 9 Member+

    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    with that defense 3 and out smh our best bet vs Japan. but im still optimistic hopefully they can pull through.
     
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  19. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The problem is “pull through” isn’t what you use one of your best talents for, especially how the qualifying final went.

    If this team had a legit final run level in them, I’d be elated to have Diego there.
     
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  20. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    So European clubs are going to pull the trigger on buying a young Mexican kid based on what he does at the U20 World Cup but not based on what he does at his club?

    We've had quite a few kids make the jump after a decent Youth World Cup. How many of them have gone on to establish themselves as senior international players without a decent first division resume?

    Ulises Davila ring a bell? Guarch? Edson Rivera?

    A kid like Marcel Ruiz will move to Europe based on what he does in LigaMX, not with the U22 National Team in Toulon, for example.

    I understand, and share, the hand wringing when it comes to some of the selections but the disappointment is clearly misplaced based on our recent history with youth national teams and players who emerge from them.
     
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  21. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    Chivas Rayadas De Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #21 AMLO2018, May 9, 2019
    Last edited: May 9, 2019
    Heard on a bunch of channels that Jose Juan Macias will be scouted on what he does in the U20 & not in the league

    Also Toulon is the tournament where there is literally way more talent scouts than fans in the stands, when we won that in 2012 it put Marco Fabian on the map since he was the top scorer & Hector Herrera since he was the best player, Raul Jimenez linking up well and being a difference maker, Nestor Araujo etc who knows how many wouldve went in 2018 if they wouldnt have lost sure as hell not just Lainez since he was the MVP, most likely Eduardo Aguirre since he was the top scorer. Euro teams dont care if Jorge Sanchez wins Copa Mx & other mickey mouse trophies like that

    Hell 'el Turco' was asked during a Celta De Vigo press conference on why there isnt many Mexicans playing in Europe he said it's because the Liga MX isnt watched over there + the players are unknown. So how do they get known? Winning the Olympic Gold like in 2012, Did you know that Hirving Lozano got picked over Kellyn Acosta by PSV because Chucky shined in the 2nd CCL game & eliminated Dallas single handedly? The scouts were there to see the Nad yet he stunk it up
     
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  22. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    I mean, that's not saying much.

    A bunch of channels? like TV pundits?

    Logically, it makes sense to you that Euro club would care more about what he does against players his own age than what he does against first division professionals?

    It's one thing to say a good U20 World Cup might bring more suitors in but I can guarantee you that if he moves abroad, it ain't gonna be on the back of scoring a few goals against Japan and Ecuador's U20 teams.

    Yeah I don't know about that.

    Marco Fabian had been a first division player with Chivas for quite a while before he lit up Toulon. He played and scored in a Libertadores final two years prior to the Toulon tournament for the love of god.

    Herrera was the LigaMX rookie of the year before he was even called up to the U22s by Tena.

    Raul Jimenez barely played in Toulon, mostly took a back seat to Pulido and he was already a first team member at Club America for over 6 months.

    Nestor Araujo also barely played in Toulon. He was one of the best players for Mexico at the 2011 U20 World Cup and the 2011 Copa America and that didn't get him a move abroad.

    You're mostly proving my point here.

    So European clubs don't watch LigaMX but they watch the U20 World Cup? They are incredibly indifferent to youth world Cups and tend to place more emphasis on the U21 European Cup.

    Lozano had been followed by European clubs since he tore up the Milk Cup as a scrawny 15 year old many moons ago. And more to the point, his U20 World Cup with Mexico a few years ago was not very good. He was fatigued and also failed to really shine at the Olympics the year after.

    He went to Europe based on his performances vs adults and professionals.
     
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  23. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    We lost our final friendly heading to the cup. 3-1 to Colombia. Pinche Tony scored.
     
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  24. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    That wasn't the final friendly. Mexico is going to play New Zealand when they get to Poland.
     
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  25. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Tied Saudi Arabia
    Lost to Colombia
    Lost to New Zealand in prep
     
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