2019 U.S. Open Cup

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by newtex, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    So if I understand this correctly, no new teams enter for round 3. Looks like round 3 is winners from round 2 (and nobody else). Am, I right?
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Yes.
     
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  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In addition to the USOC, the English FA Cup and Coppa Italia have clubs enter two rounds before the latest entries, but no clubs enter one round before the latest entries.
     
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  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    USSF just tweeted that the 3rd match-ups will be announced on Tuesday, May 14.

    Now it makes even less sense. Just wait until May 16.
     
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  5. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    So, I think I my have found the cup competition with the most ridiculous travel. The Coupe de France's first round has teams that enter from overseas departments of France. So you have two teams from each of French Guiana, Martinique, Guadeloupe, and Reunion. They then have a single team from Mayotte (near Madagascar), New Caledonia (!!), and Tahiti (!!!!!!). 5 of those teams host a game against a French team and 6 go to France. Any team that wins their away leg gets a home game in the following round. Of course, the French Cup is always weird. A 3rd division side got to the final in 17/18 (two 3rd division teams played each other in the semi's) and a 4th division side losing 1-0 to Lyon in 11/12. Then you got things like this: "In the 2010–11 Coupe de France, a seventh round match between Tourcoing and Viry-Châtillon was abandoned after 30 minutes following an altercation between two opposing players, which resulted in a brawl breaking out and dozens of spectators invading the field of play".
     
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  6. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Aux armes, citoyens!
     
  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New Caledonia and Tahiti are members of FIFA, but the other ones are not. Shouldn't clubs from the overseas departments be allowed to participate? Their citizens can vote in French elections. The colonists said "no taxation without representation," and in a less important way having overseas departments be part of France but not represented in the Coupe de France would be how the colonists felt. I think Ligue 1 having 18 clubs in the European part of France, 1 in the Caribbean, and 1 in Oceania would be too much travel, but I think it's okay for a cup.
     
  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Related, what's the deepest run a Hawai'ian or Alaskan team has made in the Open Cup? I believe all 5 of the recognized American overseas territories have their own FA's so teams in those regions wouldn't be eligible for the Open Cup, right?
     
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  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    In case people are curious, French Guiana, in South America, Guadeloupe and Martinque in the Caribbean, and Reunion and Mayotte in Africa are all inherent parts of France - the level of departments. That is equivalent to Hawaii being a US state. This explains why French Guiana is not a member of FIFA, just as Hawaii is not a member of FIFA.

    New Caledonia and Tahiti, and a few others, are more akin to territories, like American Samoa and Guam, explaining why they have their own FIFA representation.
     
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  10. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    utter nonsense

    with a 2-week break before the next round, there is simply no need to do it today (or last week or yesterday) instead of Thursday
     
  11. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the plus side, for us MLS fans, some of those potential 3rd round games, like the one between Tampa and OKC (or Reading/Birmingham or StLouis/ElPaso or Memphis/Hartford or one or two others) could at least hold some intrigue as to how the 4th round pods would fill out for the MLS teams.
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Here are the match-ups without regard to hosting.

    2019 US Open Cup
    Third Round

    North Carolina FC (USL-C)/Richmond Kickers (USL-1) winner v.
    Charlotte Independence (USL-C)/Florida Soccer Soldiers (FL) winner

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL-C)/Dayton Dutch Lions winner v.
    Indy Eleven (USL-C)/Lansing Ignite FC (USL-1) winner

    Louisville City FC (USL-C)/Reading United AC winner v.
    Birmingham Legion FC (USL-C)/West Chester United (PA) winner

    Des Moines Menace (USL-2)/Saint Louis FC (USL-C) winner v.
    El Paso Locomotive FC (USL-C)/Forward Madison FC (USL-1) winner

    Nashville SC (USL-C)/South Georgia Tormenta 2 (USL-2) winner v.
    Greenville Triumph SC (USL-1)/Charleston Battery (USL-C) winner

    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C)/The Villages SC (USL-2) winner v.
    OKC Energy (USL-C)/NTX Rayados (TX) winner

    Memphis 901 FC (USL-C)/NY Red Bulls U23 (USL-2) winner v.
    Hartford Athletic (USL-C)/NY Cosmos B (NPSL) winner

    Austin Bold (USL-C)/Tulsa Roughnecks (USL-C) winner v.
    San Antonio FC (USL-C)/Laredo Heat SC (NPSL) winner

    Phoenix Rising FC (USL-C)/New Mexico United (USL-C) winner v.
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC (USL-C)/FC Denver (CO) winner

    El Farolito (NPSL)/Fresno FC (USL-C) winner v.
    Sacramento Republic FC (USL-C)/Reno 1868 FC (USL-C) winner

    Las Vegas Lights FC (USL-C)/Cal FC (CA) winner v.
    Orange County SC (USL-C)/Orange County FC (NPSL) winner


    Winners advance to Round 4 against MLS teams.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    A team from Alaska named Spanish Plus from Fairbanks lost, 12-0, to a team from San Francisco in 1979 according to theCup.us. They don't say what round that was in. I don't see a reference to any teams from Hawaii.

    All teams in the U.S. Open Cup have to be affiliated with the USSF. I believe that you are correct about teams from the territories with their own FAs.
     
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  15. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Dunno. Tahiti, for instance, has its own FA and has teams that qualify for the OFC Champions League. Yet the cup winner qualifies for a cup tournament hosted by a UEFA country. So, could teams from US territories be allowed to compete in the Open Cup? Don't see why not. Also don't see it being economically feasible at this point either.
     
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  16. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Cosmos B have someone from Albania's team at the 2016 European Championship? Where do they get the money to pay people?
     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Commisso has lots of money. How else could they roll up the score on amateur teams game after game during the regular season?

    It doesn't seem to be doing a lot of good so far tonight against a pro team.
     
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  18. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Well, he is 36 year old that will be 37 in October. Not sure he is on huge money.

    Charlotte started an 18 year old that was in Atlanta's academy before heading to Schalke for 6 months and an English keeper from Man City that has been in the U-19 squad.
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    A 120th minute breakaway equalizer for a 10-man semi-pro team against a USL team is some seriously great USOC. Inject it into my veins.
     
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  20. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    And now we are into the 5th round of PKs with no misses.

    And then Enzo Martinez does miss and the Florida Freakin' Soccer Soldiers move on.
     
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  21. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Great looking save, too.
     
  22. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    #197 Justin O, May 14, 2019
    Last edited: May 14, 2019
    Jeez. I switched away when Florida SS conceded in extra time, intending to check back around minute 115, got distracted and missed it all. Oh well.

    Next round they get North Carolina or Richmond.
     
  23. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am driving back to DC in the morning, from the Tampa Bay area. I am seriously considering stopping over in Cary for the night, to take in the NC v Richmond game.
     
  24. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Also worth mentioning they went down to 10 men in the 90th minute.
     
  25. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great night for home teams so far, going 7-1. (With Las Vegas hoping to make it 8-1.)

    And that 1 wasn't even a loss, it was Charlotte officially with a tie, failing on pk's against the Florida Soccer Soldiers.
     

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