09/11/19 New York City FC vs Toronto FC Yankee Stadium (7PM ET) REF: Christopher Penso AR1: CJ Morgante AR2: Logan Brown 4TH: Lorant Varga VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero AVAR: Ian McKay Houston Dynamo vs Minnesota United BBVA Stadium (8:30PM ET) REF: Tim Ford AR1: Jeremy Kieso AR2: Jose Da Silva 4TH: Ismail Elfath VAR: Malik Badawi AVAR: Peter Balciunas Colorado Rapids vs LA Galaxy Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (9PM ET) REF: Fotis Bazakos AR1: Matthew Nelson AR2: Jeffrey Greeson 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Alejandro Mariscal AVAR: Jeff Muschik Real Salt Lake vs San Jose Earthquakes Rio Tinto Stadium (9:30PM ET) REF: Joe Dickerson AR1: Jeff Hosking AR2: Kevin Klinger 4TH: Allen Chapman VAR: Edvin Jurisevic AVAR: TJ Zablocki 09/14/19 New York City FC vs San Jose Earthquakes Yankee Stadium (12:30PM ET) REF: Rubiel Vazquez AR1: Claudiu Badea AR2: Philippe Briere 4TH: Lukasz Szpala VAR: Caleb Mendez AVAR: Gjovalin Bori Chicago Fire vs FC Dallas SeatGeek Stadium (3:30PM ET) REF: Jair Marrufo AR1: Jose Da Silva AR2: Chris Elliott 4TH: Silviu Petrescu VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero AVAR: Peter Manikowski Atlanta United vs Columbus Crew Mercedes-Benz Stadium (7PM ET) REF: Alan Kelly AR1: Logan Brown AR2: Eric Weisbrod 4TH: Ismail Elfath VAR: Edvin Jurisevic AVAR: Peter Balciunas Montreal Impact vs FC Cincinnati Saputo Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Ramy Touchan AR1: Brian Dunn AR2: CJ Morgante 4TH: Armando Villarreal VAR: David Barrie AVAR: Robert Schaap Orlando City vs New England Revolution Exploria Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Fotis Bazakos AR1: Brian Poeschel AR2: Jason White 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Victor Rivas AVAR: Jeff Muschik Philadelphia Union vs Los Angeles FC Talen Energy Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Nima Saghafi AR1: Adam Wienckowski AR2: Corey Rockwell 4TH: Sergii Demianchuk VAR: Chico Grajeda AVAR: Craig Lowry Vancouver Whitecaps vs Houston Dynamo BC Place (10PM ET) REF: Robert Sibiga AR1: Frank Anderson AR2: Jeremy Hanson 4TH: Joe Dickerson VAR: Dave Gantar AVAR: Chris Wattam 09/15/19 Portland Timbers vs D.C. United Providence Park (3:30PM ET) REF: Drew Fischer AR1: Kathryn Nesbitt AR2: Felisha Mariscal 4TH: Alejandro Mariscal VAR: Ricardo Salazar AVAR: Cameron Blanchard Toronto FC vs Colorado Rapids BMO Field (5PM ET) REF: Alex Chilowicz AR1: Kyle Atkins AR2: Corey Parker 4TH: Pierre-Luc Lauziere VAR: Kevin Terry Jr AVAR: Gianni Facchini Minnesota United vs Real Salt Lake Allianz Field (5:30PM ET) REF: Rosendo Mendoza AR1: Ian Anderson AR2: Andrew Bigelow 4TH: Christopher Penso VAR: Kevin Stott AVAR: Cory Richardson Seattle Sounders vs New York Red Bulls CenturyLink Field (6PM ET) REF: Allen Chapman AR1: Oscar Mitchell-Carvalho AR2: Nick Uranga 4TH: Thomas Snyder VAR: Tim Ford AVAR: Thomas Supple LA Galaxy vs Sporting Kansas City Dignity Health Sports Park (10PM ET) REF: Ted Unkel AR1: Eduardo Mariscal AR2: Mike Rottersman 4TH: Greg Dopka VAR: Dave Gantar AVAR: Michael Kampmeinert
Drew Fischer has two female ARs for his match. Anyone know if there's been any other MLS games with both ARs being women?
This is actually something that Drew demands now, he changed his rider to include female ARs and only Yellow M&Ms in the dressing room.
lots of things to chew on in Colorado. The PK seemed very soft given the views shown on TV. The red card review that took forever (and didn't seem like an obvious error), and now another review in the 100th minute.
There's video of the PK call in the tweet below, though it might not be the best angle. Controversial penalty given to Colorado that puts them up 2-1 over #LAGalaxy. Having a hard time seeing the contact. A loss here for LA would see them on the outside of the playoff picture going into their last 5 games of the season. pic.twitter.com/eWru9xzjKY— MLS Buzz (@MLS_Buzz) September 12, 2019
I don’t understand how you call a soft-ish penalty on one end, don’t review it which is fine, but then review for a pen on the other end and no penalty called. Seems a bit inconsistent. I’m fine with the red and review — took a bit too long but I understand they had to deal with the confrontations going on.
POOL REPORTER QUESTIONS FROM COL VS LA TO THE REFEREE:Big thanks to @LWOSMattPollard for taking my questions and combining them.#COLvLA #MLS pic.twitter.com/t2UaHRkAyR— Josh Guesman (@jguesman) September 12, 2019 ....what. I mean, I get subjectivity, but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
Standing above the Colorado goal in the second half (and wearing burgundy glasses) I thought PK and a red. But that's without looking at video and having that view. The LA non-PK was on the other end, no idea on that call.
Pool Reporter Session Transcript #COLvLA: pic.twitter.com/JTlfswBp6m— Matt Pollard (@LWOSMattPollard) September 12, 2019 Here's the full transcript.
Tweets both say that Bazakos talked with the pool reporter - it wasn't just written questions. Interested if that's a policy change, an experiment, rogue activity...
The foul happens right at the end of the 12th second, beginning of the 13th second. It’s not the best angle, partly because LA #21 is between the camera and the contact. Bazakos was closer and had a better angle. This clip shows the foul better, you can see it even with poor video quality. Looks like a solid penalty to me.
“The more appropriate outcome was yellow.” That sounds like re-refereeing, not reversing a clear error....
You don't say! I'm also interested to learn why, if true, Bazakos didn't answer pool report questions in writing. It's a lot easier to misspeak--either by saying something you didn't really mean or admitting to something you aren't supposed to--in live conversation. Given some of the instructions and guidance PRO has given behind the scenes (and I say "some," because it's been frustratingly inconsistent) regarding SFP and penalty decisions it doesn't shock me that Bazakos would use a word like "appropriate" (or "preferred" or even "expected") in conversation. If this had been done in writing, I think there's a much better chance he and his crew wouldn't have used that terminology. But I might be wrong.
I think we all saw that coming from the beginning that VAR was always going to lead to re-refereeing. The surprise is that it took so quickly. My issue isn't so much that they are using VAR to re-referee, it is more of the issue that they, seemingly, arbitrarily want VAR to be used for re-refereeing for certain incidents, but not for others. They support and in certain cases demand/expect it, but not for others. They want the "preferred" (re-refereed) outcome on any red card given. Basically, if you give a red card, they want the VAR to look for any possible reason, no matter how small, to overturn it and get the "correct" decision. Take the red card that MLS overturned in the 8th minute in the New York vs. New England match for DOGSO. PRO wanted the referee to use VAR to restart with a "no foul." They said that minuscule touch the defender got on the ball was enough to overturn the red card. Now if Petrescu didn't call a foul on the field and the defender didn't get a touch, but you had to zoom in 20 times and look at 20 different camera angles to definitely conclude he didn't get a touch (it wasn't clearly obvious from first viewing that he didn't get a touch on the ball) they would have wanted no intervention because it wasn't "clearly wrong." Same thing with most penalty kicks. Find a reason to not overturn, but if you happen to not give one on the field, the decision has to be "clearly wrong." They look to take away goals and red cards, but are not looking to award goals and award red cards.
Interesting off the ball incident involving Wondolowski. We didn't get more than one angle on TV but it looked similar to Rooney's recent red. Hard to tell if it was as bad, however. No OFR.
Penalty in last night's Vancouver v Houston game... https://streamable.com/qm6sg Process decent, but I still have issue with the way that the potential handball appeared to shown on video (slow motion rather than at live speed). I also thought that, if the referee stuck with his initial decision, he didn't need to give the VAR signal and show the penalty signal again. Finally: I think that the commentary guys hit on some actual good thoughts (I know, shocking, right!?) while discussing this, and now I actually wish I'd heard what Garber said at HT during the game (he was talking about VAR implementation in the Premier League apparently and comparing to MLS)
My understanding is that slow mo is supposed to beused to determine if there was ball-hand contact, but not for whether it is deliberate—is that right or just something we’ve discussed as being a good idea?