2019 Match Day #29 Union v. Atlanta United FC, August 31, 2019 p/d/p

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by cwelch999, Aug 23, 2019.

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Predict The Outcome: Union v. Atlanta United FC

Poll closed Aug 31, 2019.
  1. Win

    20.8%
  2. Loss

    50.0%
  3. Tie

    29.2%
  1. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    DATE / TIME:
    Saturday, August 31, 2019
    7:30 PM EDT


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    Talen Energy Stadium
    Chester, Pennsylvania
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    LAST MEETING:

    Sunday, March 17, 2019
    Mercedes-Benz Stadium / Atlanta, Georgia
    Atlanta United FC 1 - 1 Philadelphia Union
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  2. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they win. Then another against LA. Then they blow it the last week of September and wind up in 3rd anyway.
     
  3. Mateito

    Mateito New Member

    Union
    United States
    Jul 3, 2017
    WVU I think they falter and end up in 3rd or 4th as well. The other top 3 teams in our division are just better than us and on more of an uptick right now.

    And without Bedoya the Union are TOAST vs Atlanta.
     
  4. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can they contest the Yellow Card and get Bedoya back for this game? It was a soft yellow.
     
  5. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am fairly certain you can only change red cards, but not yellow cards, unless it was something egregious like mistaken identity. However, now with VAR, they check that during the game so it won't come up anymore.
     
  6. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Couldn't have scripted this better - 1st place vs. 2nd, and the stadium has been rocking the last 2 games. Another full house for sure for this one.

    Very different to when we met them early in the year when Aaronson announced his arrival with a goal. Both teams were struggling then. They're flying now, and our defence is going to be tested like never before, and Bedoya's absence means Haris will need significant help in DM.

    There's only been 2 losses at Talen - the opening day loss to Toronto could be put down to growing pains, but Portland efficiently won in May thanks to a talismanic striker... hmmm.

    Still I'm hopeful the team will feed off the crowd's energy and raise their game to the opponent. My guess would be a high-scoring tie.
     
  7. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Atlanta has the Open Cup Final this week. So hopefully best case is they go 120 and all-out and take a nice breather this weekend.
     
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  8. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this will be the equalizer for us. We’ll be down Bedoya, but they’ll have tired legs.
     
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  9. EdBacon

    EdBacon Member+

    Apr 6, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Is "tired legs" ever really a thing? Like, is there any evidence it affects a teams' performance on a weekend after playing midweek?
     
  10. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who knows, but I’ll blindly believe that it does.
     
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  11. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course it is, haven't you played Football Manager? ;)
     
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  12. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well DC sure looked like sh!te against us after playing RB on Wed so tired legs is a proven fact.
     
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  13. hasuprotoss

    hasuprotoss Member

    Jun 9, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the XI without Bedoya? Do they stick with 4-2-3-1 and go something like:

    Blake
    Gaddis---Elliott---McKenzie---Wagner
    Creavalle--Medunjanin
    Ilsinho---Monteiro---Aaronson
    Przybylko

    or go more 4-4-2:
    Blake
    Gaddis---Elliott---McKenzie---Wagner
    Medunjanin
    Aaronson--Monteiro
    Fabian
    Przybylko---Wooten

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    Something else? Do they need Creavalle on the field to try and have a chance to slow down the Atlanta attack?
     
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  14. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember when Carroll was assigned to shut Henry down and stayed glued to him the whole game? Medunjanin can't do that. We have to have Creavalle on the field.
     
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  15. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the 442 option. We're at home, so we should take the game to them and get the crowd into it. It allows us press high and maybe disrupt their build-up play with 2 big strikers, plus we can bring Ilsinho and Fafa off the bench to run at tired defenders in the 2nd half (after their midweek cup final). ATL is going to get their goals against us, so we just have to score more.
     
  16. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that Curtin puts out the same lineup with Creavalle in for Bedoya. Curtin likes to go with what works and that worked on Saturday.

    Another change that might happen is someone more defensive for Ilsinho. Curtin could play Fafa there or could start Fabian at the 10 and move Monteiro to the wing. McKenzie will be assigned to Martinez like he was assigned to Kamara.

    I would like to see something like:

    Blake
    Gaddis---Elliott---McKenzie---Wagner
    Medunjanin
    Creavalle--Aaronson
    Monteiro
    Przybylko---Fabian

    I think that combines the high press that is needed and provides some defensive cover for Haris. I still think that we can control the midfield with this lineup. Plus it allows Ilsinho and Fafa to come in if needed to run at Atlanta who plays tonight (and then hopefully celebrates all night) before traveling to Philly.
     
  17. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My only worry is that Haris seems to just assume Creavalle is always covering defensively and he gets kind of crazy going forward, without covering. If he does this and there is no help at the top of the box when Atlanta attacks we are in big trouble.

    Unfortunately I don't think there's a lineup that can coverup for that. Haris just needs to remember his defensive duties.
     
  18. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Swap Arronson and Monteiro and you have it. That way Monteiro takes Bedoya's place as cover for Harris, and the kid can press Atlanta relentlessly until about the 60' when Ilsinho comes on.
     
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  19. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very sad that we are having to devise lineups that cover for Haris' liabilities. I still think his defensive weaknesses have allowed more goals than he has created.
     
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  20. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An intra-conference matchup against the defending MLS champs with 1st place on the line and the FO tries to sell tickets by giving us...90's night?!?!?!

    I realize they came up with this back in February, but just scrap the minor league baseball promotion and sell the match on its merits!

    Maybe I'm just bitter because the 90's are apparently long enough ago to be a throwback night theme and now I just feel old. Thanks Union!
     
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  21. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels like a loss.
     
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  22. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barco is out for Atlanta.

    Based on Jim's comments from yesterday about Ilsinho, I think it will be a 4-2-3-1:

    Przybylko
    Aaronson-Fabian-Ilsinho
    Monteiro-Medunjanin
    Wagner-McKenzie-Elliott-Gaddis
    Blake

    Although Jim did say that he expected Jamiro to "play the 8" so that confused me a bit. Is the DM position in a 4-2-3-1 considered an "8"?
     
  23. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lineup that has a lot going for it offensively, but I am so worried about Monteiro moving forward and Haris not covering. This could be a 3-2, 3-3 type match.
     
  24. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curtin said something yesterday along the lines of, "We're not going to sit back against Atlanta because they'll break you down eventually. We're going to take it to them."

    Union are the slight favorite:
    Union +125
    Draw +271
    Atlanta + 189
     
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  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we win.
     

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