2019 Match Day #27: Chicago Fire v. Union, August 17, 2019 p/d/p

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by cwelch999, Aug 12, 2019.

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Predict The Outcome: Chicago Fire v. Union

Poll closed Aug 17, 2019.
  1. Win

    65.2%
  2. Loss

    21.7%
  3. Tie

    13.0%
  1. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Actually Chicago's long-ball game needn't be too affected by the loss of a midfielder. If they hold their nerve they could extend their lead.
     
  2. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some classic, old timey Union attacking futility on display tonight.
     
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  3. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They could play all night and not score. 10 men, 9 men, doesn't matter.
     
  4. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just laughing at how bad they are at this point.
     
  5. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not their night. Move on to the next game
     
  6. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And there it is. Terrible starting XI. Terrible effort. Laughable finishing.
     
  7. Ascalz

    Ascalz BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 18, 2010
    130
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God, they looked terrible. Giving the ball away. Passes to no one except Chicago players. Even up a man they nearly gave Chicago a goal. They literally just attempted to pass the ball into the freaking net.
     
  8. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The worst part is that Portland will beat Atlanta tomorrow and we'll still be in first place.
     
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  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is that bad? Shouldn't we be happy if this happens?
     
  10. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not bad in the sense that we want the best position. Certainly bad in the sense that it gives the team further fuel to use to spin that we’re better than we really are.
     
  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certain members of this fan base are insufferable. This team could win a trophy and people would bitch that the team was undeserving or didn't play pretty enough, etc..
     
  12. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have always felt the fanbase is stuck in this weird position where they want the best for the players, and would love them to experience a Championship, but hate the idea of Sugarman, and others in the FO, getting to taste it as well.
     
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is utterly ridiculous because without Sugarman and the other investors there wouldn't be an MLS team in the Philly Area. Not to mention that most, if not all of the people that the fans wanted to string up on the flag poles in TRE are all gone now.

    Look I completely get that fans rightly feel that the Philly market is being wasted in MLS. At the same time, would Philly even have a MLS team if not for the current investors? I'm not convinced that a local owner would pony up the current expansion fee, stadium fee (is there anywhere in the City to build a stadium?), Academy expenses, and the cost to build a training facility is out there. I also doubt that MLS would allow a Jeffrey Lurie owned team to play at the Linc long term or short term for that matter.

    We all might as well jump ship and support the Fury at Franklin Field at this point.
     
  14. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Honestly, we would have a better owner and a stadium in the city if the Union had come in two or three years later.
     
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  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How are we so sure of this? We'll never know of course.
     
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  16. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Critical thinking and the example of the half dozen other teams that entered after us.
     
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  17. EdBacon

    EdBacon Member+

    Apr 6, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Because the Union are not a good soccer team. This is just a year in which the East is fairly weak and we are competitive because of it, but I don't see their level of play and think that its either any more consistent than it has been, or that their position on the table is sustainable next year at this level of play either.

    We're like the 2010 Colorado Rapids, falling upwards.
     
  18. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The West isn’t much stronger. LAFC is running away while the other teams trip over themselves.
     
  19. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither can I. But it supports the idea that the crowd (subconsciously, I suppose) influences the referee, and the closer they are, the more they do.
     
  20. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    I doubt it. There is pretty much nowhere in the city that has an area big enough for a stadium that would be in a better location than Chester. It wasn't going to go in the stadium complex because it would be useless there (already have a stadium there that fills that need). Delaware Ave? Only spot that might be big enough is near where the Walmart is and there is no mass transit and nowhere to add parking. Near Temple? Even they haven't been able to get a stadium built on land they own. The only viable situation would have been if Lurie wanted to own a team like Blank did (or the Carolina Panthers owner does now).

    The current stadium at least has adequate parking and decent ability to be accessed by car. Mass transit is a little worse but unless a stadium is built at the stadium complex (again, not happening) or near center city (really not happening) then it won't be near a transit line either.
     
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  21. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    BigSoccer DO SOMETHING!
    End Insufferable Fans Now!
    LET'S GO!
     
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  22. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  23. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Sugarman and Co. were literally offered a spot close to where Sugarhouse sits now. They turned it down and went cheap.
     
  24. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many, many, moons ago there was mention of an MLS team taking up residence where the Plymouth Metroplex shopping areas are today. I still wish that would have come to fruition.

    Could have plopped a SEPTA station between Norristown & Conshy on the Manayunk line for people coming out of the City. Proximity to Blue Route would have been easy for vehicle travel, and it would have been right in the heart of Soccer Mom country (since MLS courts that demographic with vigor).

    Unfortunately that land is all scooped up now and developed.
     
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  25. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The traffic in that location is a pain in the a$$ without a stadium, and it would be even worse on game days. It is nowhere near mass transit...as we've learned from Chester, plopping down a new SEPTA station on an existing regional rail line is no easy task, and even then the Norristown regional track is still 1.5 miles through an industrial area from the Metroplex at it's closest point, which nobody will be willing to walk (as we've learned from Chester...it's just a mile walk to TES from the Highland Ave SEPTA station).

    The only benefit to that area is that it's immediately proximal to a more affluent demographic than Chester, but it would be equally less convenient for all the folks in Delco and Delaware.

    I think at one point there was talk of Fishtown or Northern Liberties, and also Rowan Univ. over in NJ, but not sure how legit either of those were, especially once the state and county agreed to subsidize the Chester site.
     

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