2019 Match Day #27: Chicago Fire v. Union, August 17, 2019 p/d/p

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by cwelch999, Aug 12, 2019.

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Predict The Outcome: Chicago Fire v. Union

Poll closed Aug 17, 2019.
  1. Win

    65.2%
  2. Loss

    21.7%
  3. Tie

    13.0%
  1. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    DATE / TIME:
    Saturday, August 17, 2019
    8:00 PM EDT


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    SeatGeek Stadium
    Bridgeview, Illinois
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    Mostly clear
    Temp: 80°
    Feels Like: 79°


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    Saturday, July 20, 2019
    Talen Energy Stadium / Chester, Pennsylvania
    Philadelphia Union 2 - 0 Chicago Fire
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  2. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Need to rack up dem points before the tough games at the end of the schedule.
     
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  3. Ruud11

    Ruud11 Member

    Dec 2, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Interesting what Warshaw wrote about Chicago after their last game:
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    This game was the perfect encapsulation of the Fire’s season. Gorgeous soccer followed by a slow, steady descent into the nearly inevitable feeling that they would drop points, followed by a mad rush to get a late goal. This time, they actually got that late goal. It’s also probably not a coincidence that they’ve played a 4-2-3-1 formation three games in a row and taken seven points. The Fire still have a chance to get over the playoff line. To take it a step further, it might even be in their hands. They have two six-point games left against New England and Toronto, plus Columbus, Cincinnati, and Orlando. Chicago have the soccer in them to take 15 from the last eight games. They just can’t trip over themselves as they get into the sprint.
    UNQUOTE
    Should be a very interesting game!
     
  4. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago has played better as of late, but I think the Union will go for a kill on this one, knowing how hard the final matches are going to be. There is now way the Fire can keep us from getting 2 or 3 if we're firing away at will.
     
  5. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    They would have scored more goals on us last time if CJ hadn't missed at least two good opportunities. Let's hope he's in the lineup again.
     
  6. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curtin said today that Collin is the starter and Trusty and McKenzie are battling to make the 18.
     
  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Atlanta foolishly played their starters in the Campeones Cup. Hoping that helps the Union extend their lead in the standings this weekend.
     
  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Katai sees red tonight, won't be available on Saturday
     
  9. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago played at 10:00 PM CDT last night and flies from Portland to Chicago today. They will have only one full day to prepare for this game.

    Katai got the red card in the 30th minute, so the remaining players played down a man for 60+ minutes.

    Note that Schweinsteiger, McCarty, Gaitan and Herbers did not travel to Portland, Calvo and Bornstein played 45 minutes each, Mihailovic played only 61 minutes and Sapong only played 29 minutes.

    Chicago took the "we'll try our best in Portland but want to be ready for Philadelphia on Saturday" approach. I assume that this is what the Union are going to do for the game at San Jose on 9/25.
     
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  10. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I hope we just go full academy/Bethlehem roster in SJ.
     
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  11. OwlSaver

    OwlSaver Member+

    Jan 26, 2005
    Berwyn, PA (127, J)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be interested in an analysis of how teams do on short rest vs long rest in MLS. It seems that whenever we play a team that has had a short rest, we lose (I am basing this broad statement on the single game against Orlando where they had two players out on Red Cards). It would be interesting to see the impact of rest over many games.
     
  12. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From a fantasy soccer perspective, the largest factors that I use are (1) home/away; (2) opponent; (3) amount of rest.

    I'm sure that this analysis has been done. I'll see if I can find something.
     
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  13. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Union just beat Houston who was on 3 days rest, got crushed by Montreal on 3 days rest (Canadian Championship vs York9), beat Chicago who was on 3 days rest since the Orlando matches.

    I saw a stat that 5 of the next 6 Union matches are against teams on short rest. Not sure if it is true, but it should be a good test for the question.
     
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  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Houston and Chicago were home games. Montreal was an away game. IMO the home vs road factor is greater than the days of rest between games factor. MLS skews heavily in favor of the home team. If you look at the road records of MLS teams, only LAFC has a record above .500 on the road this season.
     
  15. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That home field advantage is so important in soccer is taken for granted, but I found this article about it from the Freakonomics blog. It's old (from 2011), but found that, of the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, and MLS, MLS has the highest home winning percentage.

    League Home Games Won
    MLB 53.9%
    NHL 55.7%
    NFL 57.3%
    NBA 60.5%
    MLS 69.1%

    Their conclusion is unconscious referee bias accounts for the existence of home field advantage at all, and since referees in soccer have more potential impact over a game than in other sports, the effect is bigger. Moreover, they found that stadia with track rings around the field had smaller effects than ones without.
     
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  16. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are there any MLS stadia with running tracks around the field? I can't think of any.
     
  17. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They look like shit.
     
  20. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2-0 Fire, Nikolic with his second from the spot.

    Colin pulls down Sapong on the corner.........gee, CJ NEVER got that call when he played for Philly.......
     
  21. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sapong NEVER got calls like that for us.
     
  22. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Jinx
     
  23. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Colin NEVER got called for that when he played against us.
     
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  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gaitan sees Red.......that was sorta harsh, but thems the breaks. Not like the Union will take advantage in the second half
     
  25. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got lucky. Thought that’d be turned to a yellow.
     

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