2019 Gold Cup roster/starter predictions?

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  1. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Using goals/assists per 90 for a guy who's never had more than 8 goals or 4 assists in a season is a misuse of that stat.


    James Harden: 30.4 PPG

    Naz Mitrou-Long: 144 Points Per 48
     
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  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    #52 ussoccer97531, May 25, 2018
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    Its one thing to not be sure of something I was trying to say and ask a clarifying question, but you and I both know that you were trying to call me out. Thats exactly what this was about. I would've reacted very different if you had approached it differently, but you didn't. If you are going to try to call me out, I don't know why you would get offended when I went right back at you.
     
  3. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Morris and Agudelo over Zardes?
     
  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm glad for Zardes that he's doing well with Columbus, but I don't think he's a NT player, and I've argued that for many years.
     
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  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Assumption: Siebatcheau won't have committed.
    Prerequisite: have gotten decent minutes by now.
    Other factors: performance in previous tourneys, in the Hex, and in league.

    ---------------Pulisic-----Zardes----
    ---Saief----McKennie---Nagbe----Yedlin-----
    ----------------------?????---
    ----------Robinson--Miazga--EPB-----
    ---------------------Hamid-----

    ???? = Durkins, Adams, Davis, or Trapp
     
  6. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Klinsmann liked him because he had a hunger for goals. I agreed. His problem was always getting distracted about where he should play. I had him on my roster for the Panama/Trinidad games before Arena came out with his call ups.
    www.americansoccernow.com/matches/187/starting_xis/16925

    ------------------morris--pulisic
    -vfana--zardes--Bradley--Delgado--Yedlin
    ---------------Besler--Gonzo--Cameron
    ------------------------GK: Guzan

    BriSciar's picks (bolded are guys I did not pick)
    http://www.americansoccernow.com/matches/187/starting_xis/16914


    -----------------Wood---Morris
    ------Nagbe------Pulisic-------arriola
    --vfana-----Besler----Cameron---Yedlin
    -------------------GK: Howard

    As it turned out, Morris got injured before camp and wasn't called up and we went to Trinidad and lost. I didn't pick a roster after seeing Bruce's call ups.

    Zardes and Morris combined for the goal that won us the Gold Cup against Jamaica.

    b.t.w. - Agudelo might be getting the NPGA score because as a sub he is put in to help get a goal in an "all hands on deck" situation. Nothing wrong with that. But there's a difference between a starter and a sub. Jack Mac had a good NPGA for a while.
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have a problem bringing in 18 year olds with very little club time for meaningless friendlies a year before we play anything important.

    That said, The Gold Cup is an official competition, and I actually kinda care about winning it. If a guy like Josh Sargent can break through at Werder Bremen this season, then by all means bring him in. If he doesn't though, then the U20 World Cup next summer is a better place for him.

    I fully expect Altidore to be there, I'd bet on Bradley, and I guarantee we'll see a few other 27 to 30 year old players that make us say "meh". I don't like the mindset that if Player X isn't going to Qatar, then he shouldn't feature at all during the cycle. You can't project who will be good this far out, and there's important games in the meantime.
     
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  8. vexco

    vexco Member+

    Nov 2, 2013
    So Zardes' NT production and MLS production should take a backseat to Agudelo's lack of production for the NT and MLS?
     
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  9. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that we’re into the Gold Cup year, any roster predictions?
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
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    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Altidore, Sargent, Wood, Novakovich

    Weah, Pulisic, Amon, Lletget, McKennie, Adams, Roldan, Canouse

    Villafana, Robinson, Yedlin, Lima, Miazga, Brooks, Long, CCV

    Steffen, Horvath, Guzan
     
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  11. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    #61 Patrick167, Jan 8, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2019
    Altidore, Sargent, Wood, Weah
    Pulisic, Amon, Bradley, McKennie, Mendez, Adams, Ledezma, Canouse
    Dest, Robinson, Yedlin, Cannon, Miazga, Brooks, Long, CCV
    Steffen, Horvath, Guzan
     
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  12. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m going with:

    GK: Steffen, Horvath, Klinsmann (third keeper taken as a throwaway)

    RB: Yedlin, Moore

    CB: Brooks, Miazga, Carter-Vickers, Palmer-Brown

    LB: Johnson, Robinson

    CM: McKennie, Adams, Trapp, Nagbe

    AT: Pulisic, Weah, Arriola, Amon, Gall, Green

    FW: Sargent, Novakovich

    ...cuts:
    FW: Zardes, Wright, Sabbi, Altidore, Ebobisse, Dwyer, Ramirez, Baird, Wood,

    MF: Lletget, Roldan, K. Acosta, Canouse, Mihailovic, Delgado, Morales, Bradley, Davis, Hyndman, Holmes, Parks, Corona, Gooch, Saief, Williams,

    DF: Ream, Chandler, Rosenberry, Lichaj, Garza, Lima, Lovitz, Sweat, Villafana, Long, Parker, Zimmerman

    GK: Guzan, Johnson, Miller, Bono, Hamid, Gonzalez

    ...Piere (EPB) and Siebatcheu (Nova) both included if they commit.
     
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  13. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    This is my guess based on who I think Berhalter will pick, not necessarily my preferences. Assuming he sticks with a 4-2-3-1:

    Forward: Zardes, Wood, Sargent

    I bet he sticks with Zardes, since he trusts him to produce in his system.

    Midfield: Pulisic, McKennie, Adams, Trapp, Arriola, Weah, Canouse, Nagbe, Lletget

    Like with Zardes, I bet he sticks with Trapp. Sure-thing wide players are scarce after Pulisic, so I think Arriola makes it. Nagbe and Lletget fit the possession-based style he seems to be going for and can play as pinched-in wide midfielders to give some flexibility.

    Defense: Brooks, Miazga, Long, CCV, Yedlin, Cannon, Garza, Robinson

    Based on January call-ups, it seems like he prefers Garza to Villafana at LB, so I'd say Garza gets the nod as stead, MLS-based vet presence if Robinson isn't working.

    GK: Steffen, Horvath, Guzan
     
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  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we even know the roster rules yet?

    In the past, didn't we get to replace 5-6 players after group? And shouldn't projected rosters reflect that?
     
  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    The desert
    I expect Pulisic to be MIA again so that he can focus on Chelsea. IMO he will never prioritize the USMNT the way we’d all like. Sure hope I’m wrong though.
     
  16. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The Gold Cup final is on July 7th, and Chelsea typically doesn't start their preseason tours til late July.

    I'd be stunned if Pulisic is not in The Gold Cup squad
     
  17. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    We'd all? Pretty sure there's no 'we all' on BS. And I for one will never question his love of country after watching him cry. Or perhaps the eagle tat.

    He has a responsibility to club and country and he'll balance it well. Perhaps to the point of burning himself out. If he gives Chelsea his focus this fall, he's a smart man IMO but once he's established I wouldn't think twice about his decisions on country.
     
  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    The desert
    They usually start their preseason in the middle of July. First games around the 22/23 of July the past couple years.
     
  19. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    The desert
    I should not have said "all" because that left out that one person who put BVB above the USMNT in their profile. My bad.
     
  20. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    Clever. I follow the best Americans and when I signed on here to this board it was the first team to come to mind because of CP. I will drop it soon and make it Chelsea until the USMNT actually deserves mention.
     
  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated prediction:

    GK: Steffen, Horvath, Johnson
    RB: Yedlin, Lima
    CB: Brooks, Miazga, Long, Zimmerman
    LB: Johnson, Robinson
    DM: Bradley, Trapp
    MF: McKennie, Adams, Mihailovic, Roldan
    RF: Pulisic (CPT), Baird
    FW: Sargent, Ramirez
    LF: Weah, Amon

    Contenders: Miller, Bono, Cannon, Rosenberry, Chandler, Alvarado, Garza, CCV, Trusty, Canouse, Morales, McKenzie, Nagbe, Delgado, Lletget, Lovitz, Wood, Zardes, Altidore, Novakovich, Gall, Wright
    Dual-NT: Piere, Siebatcheu
     
  22. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Forwards: Sargent, Wood, Weah, +1 (Altidore, Ramirez, Novakovich)
    Wingers: Pulisic, Amon, Arriola (or Lewis instead of the 4th forward? I doubt it, but... plus there's Kenny Saief)
    Midfield: McKennie, Adams, Bradley, Lletget, Roldan (or maybe Trapp)
    Fullbacks: Yedlin, Lima, Robinson, Garza
    Center backs: Brooks, Miazga, Zimmerman, Long (or maybe CCV)
    GK: Horvath, Steffan, Johnson (or maybe Guzan?)
     
  23. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Very close to what I have.

    Ask Fabian what he wants to do. I'd have him instead of Amon as LW, and he starts. Or if he will play LB then he starts there and drop one of those guys.
     
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  24. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I wasn't particularly wild about Fabian as a LW in the latter days of the Klinsmann era, I have to admit, but he's a guy of a quality level that should probably get a mulligan with a new coach if he truly seems interested, even if I wouldn't give him a lot of rope performance or chemistry-wise, not just because of the past, but also for the fact that he's 31; he's not exactly the future. (The same could be said of the 28 year-old Chandler, perhaps, but he'd REALLY have to convince a coach that he's all in, and then the same caveats would apply.)
     
  25. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Both should be considered.

    Chandler was actually playing LW at a high level before injury. Remains to be seen with him on every front though.

    Agreed Fabian was usually underwhelming with us at LW. He was awesome there in what I think was his first cap. And maybe one or two others, but beyond that he was better as a FB. But, I don't think he wants to play there for us. Doesn't want to. Maybe that's enough to just move on. But.....LW (or LB) are the 2 major holes in this squad and he fills either.
     

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