2019 FIFA U20 World Cup: Non-U.S. team and tournament news

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 14, 2018.

  1. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina up 1-0 in the second half.
     
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  2. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Argentina hung on for a 1-0 win over Uruguay, to complete matchday 4 of 5 in Group B.

    In Group A, Venezuela has played its 4 matches and advanced, top of the group. Two more teams will join them in the final Hex.

    Today we have:

    Brazil v Bolivia and Chile v Colombia

    Someone else can parse out all the possibilities, but there's at least one unfortunate one, based on scheduling. If Bolivia surprisingly defeats Brazil in the first game, Chile and Colombia would both advance with a draw in the later game. And if Brazil and Bolivia draw, Chile and Colombia might still advance with a high-scoring draw.

    If Brazil wins, they advance, so they control their own destiny. Host Chile will advance with a win or a draw - they have the advantage over Colombia - but likely are out with a loss.
     
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  3. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Group B also has one round left, with the final two games tomorrow (Saturday), Argentina v Peru and Uruguay v Paraguay.

    Like Venezuela in Group A, Ecuador has played its 4 matches and advanced, top of the group. Two more teams will join them in the final Hex.

    The possible outcomes seem clearly defined: Argentina and Paraguay will advance with a win or a draw; Peru and Uruguay must win to advance.
     
  4. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    #29 Thundering165, Jan 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2019
    Jeez.. Chile lost 1-0 to a 10 man Colombia on a 96th minute own goal and will not advance. They would have been through with a draw.

    Video here:



    Unbelievable. Imagine being a Chile fan right now.
     
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  5. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    So to wrap up the last stage, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Uruguay and Venezuela made it to the final round, which starts tomorrow. Four teams will go to Poland. Three will go to the Pan Am games later this year.
     
  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    CAF's U20 tournament starts Saturday in Niger. There are two four-team groups, with the top 2 teams from each going to Poland. Based on recent senior results, it looks like Group B (Burkina Faso, Ghana, Mali, Senegal) could be a bit stronger than Group A (Burundi, Niger, Nigeria, South Africa) but I won't pretend to know anything about these squads.
     
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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    After one match apiece in CONMEBOL, it's Ecuador with a win, Argentina with a loss, everyone else with draws. Fun!
     
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  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    CONMEBOL is getting interesting! If you had the table as VEN/URU (tie w/4 points apiece), ECU/ARG (tie w/3 points) and COL/BRA (tie w/1 point) after two matches, please go collect your winnings.
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    It's still pretty early in CAF -- not all teams have played a match yet. Senegal and Nigeria, playing in separate groups, both won their openers.
     
  10. DirectK

    DirectK Member

    United States
    Jun 27, 2018
    For the folks who have been tracking CONMEBOL qualifying -- I know this is a bit in the weeds, but does anyone have a sense of how Venezuela's Cristian Casseres Jr. has been playing? (He has a chance to slide into Tyler Adams' spot for Red Bulls in the upcoming MLS season.)
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Current situation after three games. Brazil is in serious trouble..........................
    It might not even go to that last group game of Brazil v Argentina.

    Next matchday is:
    Venezuela v Colombia
    Ecuador v Brazil.
    Argentina v Uruguay

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    This isn't anything close to Brazil's best U20 team. For instance, Vinicius Junior of Real Madrid isn't there. But that's the way this works in 2019 for teams in the Americas.
     
  12. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Nigeria, Senegal, Mali,and South Africa are the 4 African nations to qualify.
     
  13. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
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  14. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Draw is on 2/24.

    We'll likely be in Pot 1.
     
  15. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Milwaukee Bavarians
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be surprised if we weren't, especially if they use the same formula as last time, plus the fact that we're CONCACAF U20 champions again.

    That being said, this is also the second straight U20 World Cup without Brazil
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas

    Worth mentioning that this is nowhere near Brazil's best U20 squad. Not that it matters in the end...………………...

    One would have to imagine that the tragedy at Flamengo this past week must have had an effect on these boys as well.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47170055
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    A media advisory just distributed by FIFA advertises the tournament as offering "top football at affordable prices." Here are the rates, if you're interested:

    Ticket prices:


    Category I


    GROUP MATCHES (1 TO 36): PLN 20

    ROUND OF 16 (37 TO 44): PLN 20

    QUARTER-FINALS (45 TO 48): PLN 30

    SEMI-FINALS (49 TO 50): PLN 30

    MATCH FOR 3RD PLACE (51): PLN 30

    FINAL (52): PLN 40

    Category II


    GROUP MATCHES (1 TO 36): PLN 10

    ROUND OF 16 (37 TO 44): PLN 10

    QUARTER-FINALS (45 TO 48): PLN 20

    SEMI-FINALS (49 TO 50): PLN 20

    MATCH FOR 3RD PLACE (51): PLN 20

    FINAL (52): PLN 30


    (Current exchange rate: PLN 4.3 = EUR 1)
     
  18. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Milwaukee Bavarians
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That comes out to anywhere between $3-$10

    What a steal
     
  19. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    The 24 qualified teams will be allocated to four pots of six teams each, based on a ranking built according to past sporting performance.

    The ranking will be based on the total points obtained in the last five FIFA U-20 World Cups (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 for a loss). The ranking used to build the pots will thus be based on the points obtained at the 2017, 2015, 2013, 2011 and 2009 FIFA U-20 World Cups.

    To enable the ranking to accurately reflect current form, greatest importance will be given to results from the most recent FIFA U-20 World Cup. To a lesser degree, attention will also be paid to results from previous years. The system will use five cycles, with the points earned in one World Cup declining linearly:

    - Year 2017: 100% value of total points
    - Year 2015: 80% value of total points
    - Year 2013: 60% value of total points
    - Year 2011: 40% value of total points
    - Year 2009: 20% value of total points

    In addition, five bonus points will be added to each of the confederation champions that won a qualifying tournament. Based on the above ranking, the five top teams and the hosts will be allocated to Pot 1, the next six teams to Pot 2 and so on.

    https://resources.fifa.com/image/up...w-procedures.pdf?cloudid=gzb9a0ocrikxcfcndfhc
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here are the pots as per an email I just got from FIFA:

    Pot 1: Poland, Portugal, Uruguay, France, USA, Mexico

    Pot 2: Mali, Nigeria, New Zealand, Colombia, Korea Republic, Italy

    Pot 3: Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Argentina, Ecuador, Ukraine, Honduras

    Pot 4: Japan, South Africa, Panama, Norway, Qatar, Tahiti
    https://resources.fifa.com/image/up...w-procedures.pdf?cloudid=gzb9a0ocrikxcfcndfhc

    Poland hasn't qualified since 2007, when the U.S. ran all over them in Canada. They were an auto-qualifier, but they did participate in the European preliminaries, failing in the second of three rounds out of what was (based on traditional assumptions about who is good and who isn't -- I know nothing about the squads) a pretty balanced group. I guess it's a moot point since we won't see them in the group stage, but who knows -- particularly at home, they may not be the worst team in Pot 1.

    A sleeper might be Senegal. They didn't win the CAF qualifying tournament, but they had the Golden Ball winner and top goalscorer.
     
  21. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess the dream draw for the U.S. team would be

    USA, New Zealand, Honduras, Tahiti

    The nightmare would seem to be

    USA, Colombia, Argentina, Japan
     
  22. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    We have to draw one of Italy, Ukraine, or Norway. Can’t have two teams from the same confederation in a group.
     
  23. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Neither we can have Honduras.
     
  24. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I said, that's FIFA (that's FIFA) and as funny as it may seem
    Some posters get their kicks
    Stompin' on a dream
    But Brian don't let it, let it get you down
    'Cause this fine old thread it keeps spinnin' around
     
  25. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Milwaukee Bavarians
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dream draw: USA, Mali, Ukraine, Tahiti

    Prepare the alcohol: USA, Nigeria, Argentina, Japan
     
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