2019 FIFA U-17 World Cup: USA vs. Netherlands 11/2 7:00PM ET

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Thundering165, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    This is a must win game for the USA, as a draw all but guarantees that we will not advance. We'll know by the end of the day today for certain. A draw would advance the USA if the following results happen today:

    - Nigeria win
    - Ecuador win
    - New Zealand and Canada draw

    A loss means that the USA places 4th and their tournament is over.

    In my opinion, Reyna needs to start, as does Odunze. Leyva did well against Japan but I worry about his fitness going into his 3rd game. Saldana is replaceable, and has played two straight games. I fully expect to see Kayo, Dietz, or possibly even both. I would select Carrera over Gray based on performance but it's close. If Scally gives us the best chance to win he should start, but I'm not convinced he does. I have no strong opinion on Anderson, though; I wish we had Cuevas.

    The Netherlands is missing Bogarde, and even with a win is unlikely to advance due to the pounding they received thus far in the tournament. If the above results happen, they can advance with a win; if not, they need to win by a lot or be eliminated.

    I honestly could see this going either way; Netherlands may have the talent edge but have been dominated in two straight games.
     
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  2. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Let's hope we can back in with a draw.
     
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  3. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Cross-posting ...

     
  4. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Australia beats Nigeria and is a 4 point 3rd place team. 2 points will not be enough, we have to win. The Netherlands can still advance with a win and will be gunning for us.
     
  5. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    As I was saying, let's go all out and win this one ...
     
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  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Pepi is out w/ the injury, so he has an excuse there, but still really poor lineup choices overall. Why not AOC up top and our best player at his best position? Still not using Kayo for more athleticism/ball-winning in cm. No rotation in cm. Those kids could be tired. Dobbelaere and Jasson still means no creativity at a-wing. Benching Carrera is inexplicable. Should move Kobe up the field where he'd be better utilized and have more impact. Scally is still questionable used as a right back if at all right now.

    Hoping for the best though. :cautious:
     
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  7. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Netherlands has to beat us by 4 to have a realistic chance to advance.
     
  8. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Jasson huh? Soooo no creativity or pace on the wings yet again. My countryman is not giving me confidence.
     
  9. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    that is a terribly slow attacking lineup
     
  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    This is the first game I've looked forward to watching.

    Busio has been growing on me. I think he was fully mature at 15 and I always wondered how many of these levels he would make it thru. So far so good.
     
  11. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Reyna just doesn't seem to know when it is the right time to let go of the ball. Unfortunately, he is at Dortmund which produces those types:whistling:
     
  12. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably the worst lineup you can throw out in a must-win game.
     
  13. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    scalley is a guy who has shown some chops in this tourney.
     
  14. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I wouldnt say that. It's probably about defense and keeping it close so things don't spin out of control.
     
  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Mo reads my mind and comments that this is our best start so far.
     
  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nedeland with a great chance but shoot within Odunze's reach and he makes a solid stop.
     
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  17. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    If it is any comfort, I believe the u17's rarely produce defenders who go far in pro ranks.
     
  18. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Swear down, the USA defensive shape and effort is shit. They just run after the ball without any positional sense.
     
  19. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The defensive line is too deep, yet again. What the ******** is Wicky doing with this side?
     
  20. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This team is so bad. I don’t care what anyone says. ONE TIME THAT! HOW DO YOU TAKE YEARS TO RELEASE!
     
  21. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think what Wicky will learn this go-round is that at this level sometimes it is best to overlook athleticism in midfield and shade towards a brain. Carleton last cycle was an example. I would have brought Stroud to Brazil. He would have delivered that one ball which goes for a goal after going thru the xgoal chain.

    Continental snobbery towards WestHamfootball, Wicky?
     
  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    These teams are evenly matched.
     
  23. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Reyna looks solid as a forward. It’s hard to blame him for holding on too long when the one time he releases it his teammate doesn’t shoot on an empty net.
     
  24. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s a solid forward that doesn’t seem to have an instinct to one-time shots.
     
  25. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    You can’t have two players in Reyna and Busio who don’t close down the ball at all. The team is getting overrun in midfield because of it.
     

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