2019 CONCACAF League and 2020 Champions League

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Quarterfinals
    Home team first, times are ET

    The teams that advance out of this round automatically qualify for the 2020 CCL. The next two best based on tournament results also qualify.

    First Leg
    Tuesday, September 24
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 3-2 CA Independiente (PAN)

    Wednesday, September 25
    Waterhouse FC (JAM) 0-2 FC Motagua (HON)

    Thursday, September 26
    Alianza FC (SLV) 2-0 AD San Carlos (CRC)
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-0 Comunicaciones FC (GUA)

    Tuesday result:

    Second Leg
    Tuesday, October 1
    CA Independiente (PAN) 0-1 Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
    Saprissa advances on aggregate, 4-2.

    Wednesday, October 2
    FC Motagua (HON) v. Waterhouse FC (JAM) 10:00 pm

    Thursday, October 3
    AD San Carlos (CRC) v. Alianza FC (SLV) 8:00 pm
    Comunicaciones FC (GUA) v. CD Olimpia (HON) 10:00 pm TUDN


    The Semifinals start on October 22.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Quarterfinals
    Home team first, times are ET

    The teams that advance out of this round automatically qualify for the 2020 CCL. The next two best based on tournament results also qualify.

    First Leg
    Tuesday, September 24
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 3-2 CA Independiente (PAN)

    Wednesday, September 25
    Waterhouse FC (JAM) 0-2 FC Motagua (HON)

    Thursday, September 26
    Alianza FC (SLV) 2-0 AD San Carlos (CRC)
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-0 Comunicaciones FC (GUA)

    Wednesday result:

    Second Leg
    Tuesday, October 1
    CA Independiente (PAN) 0-1 Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
    Saprissa advances on aggregate, 4-2.

    Wednesday, October 2
    FC Motagua (HON) 0-0 Waterhouse FC (JAM)
    Motagua advances on aggregate, 2-0.

    Thursday, October 3
    AD San Carlos (CRC) v. Alianza FC (SLV) 8:00 pm
    Comunicaciones FC (GUA) v. CD Olimpia (HON) 10:00 pm TUDN


    The Semifinals start on October 22.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Quarterfinals
    Home team first, times are ET

    The teams that advance out of this round automatically qualify for the 2020 CCL. The next two best based on tournament results also qualify.

    First Leg
    Tuesday, September 24
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 3-2 CA Independiente (PAN)

    Wednesday, September 25
    Waterhouse FC (JAM) 0-2 FC Motagua (HON)

    Thursday, September 26
    Alianza FC (SLV) 2-0 AD San Carlos (CRC)
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-0 Comunicaciones FC (GUA)

    Thursday result:

    Second Leg
    Tuesday, October 1
    CA Independiente (PAN) 0-1 Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
    Saprissa advances on aggregate, 4-2.

    Wednesday, October 2
    FC Motagua (HON) 0-0 Waterhouse FC (JAM)
    Motagua advances on aggregate, 2-0.

    Thursday, October 3
    AD San Carlos (CRC) 1-0 Alianza FC (SLV)
    Alianza advances on aggregate, 2-1.
    Comunicaciones FC (GUA) 0-0 CD Olimpia (HON)
    Olimpia advances on aggregate, 2-0.


    The Semifinals start on October 22.
     
  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Comunicaciones and San Carlos take the two Champions League slots for quarterfinal losers. Only the MLS Cup slot remains to complete the Champions League field.
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2020 CONCACAF Champions League

    MEX1: Club America (2018 Apertura winner)
    MEX2: Tigres UANL (2019 Clausura winner)
    MEX3: Cruz Azul (2018 Apertura runner-up)
    MEX4: Leon (2019 Clausura runner-up)
    USA1: TBD (2019 MLS Cup winner)
    USA2: Los Angeles FC (2019 MLS Supporter Shield winner)
    USA3: New York City FC (2019 MLS other conference winner)
    USA4: Atlanta United (2019 U.S. Open Cup winner)
    CAN1: Montreal Impact (2019 Canadian Champion)
    CFU1: Portmore Utd (JAM) (2019 Caribbean Club Champion)
    CL: Saprissa (CRC) 2019 CONCACAF League 1st
    CL: Motagua (HON) 2019 CONCACAF League 2nd
    CL: Olimpia (HON) 2019 CONCACAF League 3rd
    CL: Alianza (SLV) 2019 CONCACAF League 4th
    CL: San Carlos (CRC) 2019 CONCACAF League 5th
    CL: Comunicaciones (GUA) 2019 CONCACAF League 6th

    NOTE: The USA teams can still move around if any of the already qualified teams win MLS Cup. Philadelphia would be next in line on the Shield table at the moment to take a spot if that happens but there are a couple of other teams still alive. The CONCACAF League order can also change. I just put them in the current standings order. They have all clinched qualification.
     
  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seattle jumped over Philadelphia on the final day to get in position for the backdoor CCL slot if one of the already-qualified teams or Toronto wins MLS Cup. Of course they can also qualify directly by winning MLS Cup themselves.
     
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  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Semifinals
    Home team first, times are CT

    First Leg
    Thursday, October 24
    CD Olimpia (HON) v. Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 7:00 pm
    Alianza FC (SLV) v. FC Motagua (HON) 9:00 pm

    Second Leg
    Thursday, October 31
    FC Motagua (HON) v. Alianza FC (SLV) 7:00 pm
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) v. CD Olimpia (HON) 9:00 pm


    The Final starts on November 6.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    A small anecdote for any reading Toronto fans. After playing the 2018 CCL final Sebastian Giovinco will play the 2019 Asian Champions League final next month with Al Hilal against Japan's Urawa Red Diamonds.
     
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  9. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Seattle are big Atlanta/LAFC fans right? Assuming those two win tonight, then they'll be guaranteed a spot in the CCL from what I can gather (LAFC/Atlanta have already qualified, Toronto can't qualify due to being Canadian and Seattle will obviously qualify if they win the cup).
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Yes, that is correct. If Philly and LA Galaxy are eliminated then Seattle is in.
     
  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Semifinals
    Home team first, times are ET

    First leg results:

    First Leg
    Thursday, October 24
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-0 Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
    Alianza FC (SLV) 1-1 FC Motagua (HON)

    Second Leg
    Thursday, October 31
    FC Motagua (HON) v. Alianza FC (SLV) 8:00 pm
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) v. CD Olimpia (HON) 10:00 pm


    The Final starts on November 6.
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2020 CONCACAF Champions League

    MEX1: Club America (2018 Apertura winner)
    MEX2: Tigres UANL (2019 Clausura winner)
    MEX3: Cruz Azul (2018 Apertura runner-up)
    MEX4: Leon (2019 Clausura runner-up)
    USA1: TBD (2019 MLS Cup winner)
    USA2: Los Angeles FC (2019 MLS Supporter Shield winner)
    USA3: New York City FC (2019 MLS other conference winner)
    USA4: Atlanta United (2019 U.S. Open Cup winner)
    CAN1: Montreal Impact (2019 Canadian Champion)
    CFU1: Portmore Utd (JAM) (2019 Caribbean Club Champion)
    CL: Saprissa (CRC) 2019 CONCACAF League 1st
    CL: Motagua (HON) 2019 CONCACAF League 2nd
    CL: Olimpia (HON) 2019 CONCACAF League 3rd
    CL: Alianza (SLV) 2019 CONCACAF League 4th
    CL: San Carlos (CRC) 2019 CONCACAF League 5th
    CL: Comunicaciones (GUA) 2019 CONCACAF League 6th

    Seattle has qualified for the 2020 tournament. We'll have to wait a bit to see which USA slot they will occupy. It doesn't make a huge difference because all of the USA teams should be in the higher seeded pot for the tournament draw.
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting how the 4 qualifiers this year cover (roughly) all four "corners" of the country.
     
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  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #115 EvanJ, Oct 28, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2019
    That also has the schedule. The CCL will use 8 of 12 midweeks. Every round will have legs on consecutive weeks. There's one midweek off between the Round of 16 and Quarterfinals, two midweeks off between the Quarterfinals and Semifinals during which time national teams play, and one midweek off between the Semifinals and Final. The Semifinals will be on April 7 to 9 and 14 to 16. With Yankee Stadium needing 3 days to be converted, the only one of those date NYCFC could host is April 14, with the Yankees returning home on April 17, and even that could be hard because the conversion couldn't start until April 15, and the field should be ready for baseball by midday on April 17. NYCFC could have to play at Citi Field or somewhere else if they get that far. Yankee Stadium is unavailable for both legs of the Final.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the US' strongest ever lineup.

    Supporters Shield standing (W-D-L)

    LAFC 1st (21-9-4)
    NYC 2nd (18-10-6)
    Atlanta 3rd (18-4-12)
    Seattle 4th (16-8-10)

    Mexico will have:

    América 3rd (7-7-2)
    León 5th (7-5-2)
    UANL 6th (6-6-2)
    Cruz Azul 12th (3-8-4)

    Unfortunately for Canada they'll just have Montreal (12-5-17)
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Apertura regular season is not over yet but it looks like Monterrey may head to Doha for the CWC without Liguilla (playoffs).
     
  18. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    That's one advantage the US has with multiple spots - they can select with, in part, longer term performance evaluations like the Shield winner. Fair to Montreal, they won the Canadian Championship, but I don't think their actually our best side.
     
  19. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    And since the Mexican FA, for reasons unknown, still have not adjusted their qualifying they are also not sending their "best" (i.e. the finalists of the ongoing Apertura season concluding in December will instead qualify for the 2021 CCL.)
     
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2019 CONCACAF League
    Semifinals
    Home team first, times are ET

    Second leg results:

    First Leg
    Thursday, October 24
    CD Olimpia (HON) 2-0 Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
    Alianza FC (SLV) 1-1 FC Motagua (HON)

    Second Leg
    Thursday, October 31
    FC Motagua (HON) 3-0 Alianza FC (SLV)
    Motagua advances on aggregate, 4-1.
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 4-1 CD Olimpia (HON)
    Saprissa advances on aggregate, 4-3.


    Final
    Thursday, November 17
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) v. FC Motagua (HON) 9:00 pm

    Thursday, November 26
    FC Motagua (HON) v. Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 9:00 pm
     
  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The CCL draw will be on December 9, and the Apertura playoffs won't be done by then, so eliminating the lag would mean convincing Concacaf to postpone the draw or doing the draw before all the clubs are known.
     
  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Edited: I think this is correct.

    2019 CONCACAF League
    Home team first, times are ET

    Final
    Thursday, November 7
    Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) v. FC Motagua (HON) 9:00 pm

    Tuesday, November 26
    FC Motagua (HON) v. Deportivo Saprissa (CRC) 10:00 pm
     
  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  24. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    That article is click bait. None of the TFC players say they deserve it, they just say it would be nice if they could. Everyone recognizes why they don't get in that way.
     
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  25. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Seattle guaranteeing themselves a spot in CCL, I guess that means the 8 slots for the Leagues Cup next year is also determined right (top 4 teams from each conference that aren't going to the CCL)?

    From the East:
    a) Philadelphia
    b) Toronto
    c) DC United
    d) NY Redbulls

    From the West:
    a) Real Salt Lake
    b) Minnesota
    c) LA Galaxy
    d) Portland

    Looks like the Revolution missed out playing in it by 3 points, while Dallas missed out by just a point (not looking at any tiebreakers). So that still gives teams in the playoff hunt something to play for near the end of the season...however I'm not seeing a way the bottom half of each conference can stay engaged near the end (but then again that's maybe what they get for being sucky).
     

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