Pre-match: 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup Quarterfinal: USA vs Curacao - June 30th

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  1. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goes without saying.
     
  2. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    This seems more logical than Miami FC. Good stuff.
     
  3. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well he can go back to Istanbul, not Constantinople.
    You can't go back to Constantinople.
     
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  4. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I must confess, I'm not too excited with this group, half of the player that I was hoping to see isn't here. I wanted to see more of Robinson(not selected), Brooks (injured), Yedlin(injured), Adams(injured), Weah(U20), Sargent(not selected). This group is too much MLS for my liking. I do like the new winger Boyd, he is a keeper.
     
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  5. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It'll be good for MLS to see an MLS dominated national team beat Mexico in the Gold Cup final. I'm not saying this is gonna happen, just that it would be good for MLS.
     
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CUW is the ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 code for Curacao. I thought everyone knew that.
     
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  7. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's rack up a big lead going into half time, then play keepaway with 3 subs in the second half. Worst case scenario is the game isn't decided until the end of the game. OK, real worse case scenario is Curacao up 2-0 at halftime and we re-live the Couva nightmare.
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Curaçao's trump card is their keeper, Eloy Room.

    Getting past him is not going to be easy.
     
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  9. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not about MLS vs. Europe even.

    We have younger, more talented MLS players coming through, simultaneously with younger and more talented European-based players.

    Berhalter went all-in to win the Gold Cup and "restore some of the respect" for the program (I believe he said that in a pre-GC interview, correct me if I'm wrong). He needs to win the Gold Cup, first thing's first.

    Then, he needs to integrate those young talents into the team.
     
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  10. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The more I hear US players and staff saying that they will not underestimate Curacao the more it sounds like they are doing exactly that. But it will not matter because the US, at its worst, is merely bad while Curacao is truly horrible at its best.

    If the US cannot win by at least three they should just hang it up because they are playing so poorly that they would have trouble with the B team from "Our Ladies of the Poor."

    This is still CONCACAF, the home of the horrible.
     
  11. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This false choice is exactly why we suck at integrating young talent and end up with a bunch of old has been's and never were's failing in crucial moments. Choosing better and younger players does not in any way diminish our odds of winning the meaningless games and competitions.

    And we vastly overrate experience.
     
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  12. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
    Why they changed it I can't say
    People just liked it better that way


    You suck this song is now officially stuck in my head.
     
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  13. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I'm hoping for a win, but a loss would be mitigated by our players returning to their clubs, which will have more of an impact on qualifying for 2022 than winning the 2019 Gold Cup.
     
  14. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    St. Lucia? I'm sure we could beat them easily.

    Also, she's the patron saint of the blind, not the poor.
     
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  15. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really not worried about a tournament thats over 3 years away right now. I'd like to win this one
     
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  16. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I was talking about a fictitious college somewhere in the Midwest. Any resemblance to actual people or places is purely coincidental and should in no way be seen to represent reality. ;)
     
  17. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Of course, the US has one of the younger squads in the tournament. Of the 8 quarterfinalists, El Salvador, and Honduras, only Haiti and Canada have younger teams than the U.S. (which I calculate at 25.2 years old).

    The problem, of course, is that people are complaining about specific older players in the squad, not the fact that Berhalter picked an experienced or inexperienced team.
     
  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    That tournament that is more than three years away should be all that we care about at this point. I'd lose to CONCACAF minnows this and every single Gold Cup if it means we are using the tournament to prepare for World Cup qualifying in some meaningful way. This is not that important of a competition and it never will be. But I have no faith in the fed's ability to plan that far ahead, or at all, so let's go ahead and win this thing.
     
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  19. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GB going all out? So, what is going to happen to GB if he doesn't win it? and/or the team looks bad in the finals?
     
  20. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Is that mean or average age? It matters. :rolleyes::D
     
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  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody can plan ahead this far out, and it's our only competitive tournament in the meantime.
     
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  22. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Nothing, of course.

    We’ll have a bunch of posters

    a) blame the European players, who will then be sent to the USMNT bench if they miss a couple of starts for their club team;

    And/or

    b) state that we have a shitty player pool today and just wait til next year when we surround Bradley/Trapp with some talented youth who can unlock the potential of the regista position.
     
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  23. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think I'd go with Lima for offense v. Curacao then Cannon for defense v. Jamaica.
    same logic, Ream v. Curacao, Lovitz v. Jamaica, Bradley v. CUW, Trapp v. Jamaica.

    I'd go with Boyd v Curacao, Morris v. Jamaica - this leaves Boyd fresh v. Mexico.

    I'd go with Jozy v. CUW and Zardes v. Jamaica where I'd expect more running.

    I'd go with Roldan v. CUW, Wes v. Jamaica; Pulisic v. CUW and Mexico and rest him v. Jamaica(poss sub role at 67' or so) altho I don't think I'd play Mihailovic in either case. Then there's Lewis who is useless as a starter

    v. CUW

    ------arriola--------jozy------boyd-
    ----------------puli--------roldan
    ---------------------bradley
    -----ream-----long------zim----lima
    ------------------gk steffen
     
  24. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or C. Mexico might just be better than us and sometimes you'll lose.
     
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  25. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Mexico is usually better than us but we beat them at home dos a cero.
     

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