2019 Annual NCAA/MLS Crapshoot

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hey, you called it right.

    Although your choice for the Fire, Peter-Lee Vassell, did not go until the 16th pick in the second round (40th pick overall). Guess it's a good idea that we did not spend the 5th overall pick on him.
     
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  2. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    My updated mock had us taking Akeem Ward.
     
  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Taken by DC United at 14, so I guess No. 5 was too much and he was gone before No. 15.

    We have to wait until the "teleconference" on Monday to learn who are great Third Round picks will be.

    Any thoughts on those picks, based on who is still available?
     
  4. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Prosper Figbe. Centerback.

    I can see why everyone passed on him, he didn’t come in with much hype but he performed in the Combine well. Could be a good sleeper pick. Also a solid centerback is Mitch Osmand. Had a really up and down combine, but if you’re gonna take a flyer on someone, he’s the guy.

    Attacking side, Mbacke Thiam is a big guy out of UConn. Not as tall as Collier, but definitely more skilled.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh, please, yes.

    We need a guy named Prosper Figbe on the team.
    Every team needs a Prosper Figbe.
    What a name.

    Mbacke Thiam? Never heard of him, but that is not a surprise.

    I looked them up and my concern is either would be international players and we have a surplus already.
     
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  6. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah, that’s the problem. I’ll update my spreadsheet when I get home and have a better read then.
     
  7. Cincinnati people may have redeeming value, but the city is a dump.
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    They do?!?
     
  9. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Ohio sucks. All they're good at is making a strangely high amount of astronauts. Somewhere in there is a joke about them getting as far from Ohio as possible, but I'm too tired to think it ip.
     
  10. Presidents too.
     
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  11. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    If you want a preview of my article that I have yet to start writing, my Winners and losers of Day one for the draft are:

    Winners:
    Philadelphia Union
    FC Dallas
    New England Revolution
    Atlanta United

    Losers:
    Chicago Fire
    Houston Dynamo
    New York City FC

    I'll probably say something about Sporks too, but I still have no clue what to think about their first round pick
     
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  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Winner:
    Philadelphia

    Crap shoot:
    22 teams

    Loser:
    Fire (a paltry $150,000 for two first round draft picks?)
     
  13. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  14. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Im hearing that 150k in GAM is being used to buy Ojeda. If true , I don't know what this team is going to do about international roster slots.

     
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  15. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I just ate a bowl of cereal with 16g of fiber. My afternoon should be a crapshoot as well.
     
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  16. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago
    Am I missing something? Philly got between $150-200k for 5 picks. How are they the winner if Chicago is the loser?
     
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  17. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Philly has a full roster and trust in their academy.
    The Fire do not have an 18 and have academy players actively trying to leave the club.

    That's the main difference. It's not about the money, it's about the situation.
     
  18. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It all depends on what we do with the GAM, but we don't have a good history in using it. If I remember correctly, an international slot is worth about $200k in GAM?
     
  19. That got me going. What cereal has 16g of fiber per serving? Colon Blow?
     
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  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Have you followed the Fire lately?
    We are losers until proven otherwise.
     
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  21. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago
    I was more questioning counting Philly as a winner. They gave away more than the Fire did, and possibly ended up with the exact same amount.

    Fair enough that they didn't think they needed to draft anyone, but seems like they should have been able to get more for it all
     
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  22. Jiggly_333

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    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Only 20 minutes until the Chicago Fire are "on the board" with its first pick in the 2019 MLS "Super" (duper) Draft-
    Pick 5, Round 3, Pick No. 53 overall.

    We have had success in the third round before.
    2018- Elliot Collier, the 'great' (I guess he is better than RSL-twice, Montreal and NYCFC, all which picked "PASS" in the 2018 3rd round).
    2017- the 'creative' Brandt Bronico
    2016- Vincent Keller (and who can forget Vincent Keller)
    2015- no pick (traded with Jalil Anibaba)
    2014-no pick
    2013-no third round (Supplemental Draft a few days later, Fire had no pick until No. 30)
    2012-no third round (Supplement Draft, Fire selected John Gallagher with its "first" pick)
    2011-Jason Herrick and Davis Paul
    2010-Steven Kinney
    2009-David Sias
    2008-Dwight Barret and Stephen King
    2007- Mike Banner
    2006- Jordan Russolillo
    2005- Chris Rolfe (note, in 2005, he was the 29th pick, so now he would barely be out of the first round)
    Gonzalo Segares
    Thabiso Khumalo

    In a word: Crapshoot!
     
  24. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My thinking on the draft has changed quite a bit and I wouldn't be surprised to see it changed quite significantly in the next few years, and maybe being phased out.

    Winners:
    MLS clubs (for realizing that college players are no longer good enough for the league)
    USL (for the load of players that will be available to them)
    Squad caliber college soccer players (because they will land at the more appropriate USL Championship and League 1 levels and get more playing time)

    Losers:
    No one, really. This is a good development and it appears that the league is fast approaching MLS 3.0.

    No one asks me, but I think MLS 3.0 looks like:
    • A 32 team league split between east and west. 30 league games (home and away in your conference), US Open Cup, MLS/Liga MX Cup, MLS Cup.
    • No more mid-season friendlies.
    • MLS "Draft"/Generation Adidas consisting on 1 round of the 32 best college players in the country
    • USL Championship and USL League 1 becoming more professional and imitating the top MLS structure.
     
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  25. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Make the draft only for USL teams directly run by MLS teams.
     
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