2019/2023 Gaku Shibasaki @ RC Deportivo de La Coruña (ESP)

Discussion in 'Japanese Abroad' started by Samurai Warrior, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Start all over again..
     
  2. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Should have stayed with CD Tenerife.
     
  3. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Instead of scoring against Barcelona !
    In all honesty he made the right move, nobody knows what happened in Getafe.
     
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  4. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Gaku should play first division soccer.
     
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  5. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I agree, I meant he made the right move back then.
     
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  6. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    That's fine. In winter he can transfer again if he impress.
     
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  7. yamatoship

    yamatoship Member

    Jun 25, 2019
    Getafe's football didn't suit his style of play at all. What they need are fighters, not skillful players like him.

    He was extremely stupid to throw away the chance to play for Benfica after the WC. :thumbsdown: Benfica prefers to play technically-oriented football, they are at least on par with mid-table La Liga teams and can play CL every year.

    He got what he deserved by making a foolish decision. Japan's captain plays in the Segunda? What a joke.
     
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  8. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    I'm not sure how you can be sure he "threw away" the chance to play for Benfica...
     
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  9. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    Would not suprise me :(
     
  10. YakYak

    YakYak Member

    Feb 9, 2009
    Unfortunately, in the current state of football, being the captain of the JNT does not guarantee a regular spot on a first div team in Europe.
     
  11. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Joining a team such as Deportivo La Coruña or Malaga in the Spanish second division might be a better option than joining a first division club such as Leganes.

    Malaga and Deportivo were solid La Liga teams, with Deportivo winning the league in the 1999/2000 season, and Malaga finished the league in the 4th place and qualifying to the UEFA champions league quarterfinals few years ago.

    They are clubs with history and are viewed among the favourites (or even the two favourites) to promote to the first division.
    They almost got promoted this season unless for some bad run of results which saw them drop to the play-off spots, in which Mallorca won the final play-off against Deportivo.

    If they have a great plan to secure automatic promotion and build a strong team for the future by attracting quality players such as Shibasaki and Okazaki, so why not be an integral part of this project?

    It is better than joining a relegation-threatened first division club like Leganes -which if relegated- there is no guarantee they will bounce back in one year or two.

    I can compare Deportivo and Malaga to Kashiwa Reysol, historical first division team who unfortunately found themselves in the second division. While teams like Leganes, Girona and Huesca are similar to the likes of Matsumoto Yamaga, Montedio Yamagata and Tomushima Vortis, who can found themselves -once in a while- in the first division but they would hardly survive after their first or second year in the top flight.
     
  12. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Starting from bench tonight after an uninspiring performances.
     
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  13. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    Hope this is not a thing. Again. In repeat..
     
  14. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    Stayed on the bench and they lost again. Next to last now.
     
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  15. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    His team is having an 11 matches winless streak.

    Since winning their first match of the season, they drew in 5 matches and lost in 6, which makes them languishing in the last place of the Spanish second division. They are 4 points away from getting out of the relegation zone.

    Today, they lost their home game against fellow relegation-threatened Malaga 0-2, who were also in a 10 matches winless streak since winning their first match of the season.

    Shibasaki started in 9 matches (and only played full 90 minutes in 3 matches, with 2 of them being the first 2 matches of the season), and he has been subbed out frequently, sometimes even before or around the 60 minutes mark (he was subbed out in 6 of the 9 matches he played in).

    He did not score any goal yet, unlike both of his countrymen Okazaki and Kagawa, and he had only one assist in the second match of the season.

    Deportivo La Coruña is really in a down-spiral, from narrowly missing on promotion to the Spanish first division La Liga last season to facing the threat or relegation this season.

    I couldn't imagine a worst scenario for Shibasaki; from playing in a team which was fighting for European places and only lost a Champions League spot in the last match-day of the La Liga, to playing for a relegation threatened team in the second division.

    On the contrary, both Kagawa and Okazaki are gradually adapting to their new environments in Spain, scoring goals and recording assists, and their teams are both in the promotion spots, with one or both of them might lead their teams to promotion to the Spanish first division La Liga.

    All of this, while both Kagawa and Okazaki are over 30, already past their primes, and this is their first experience in Spanish football. Unlike Shibasaki who already spent 2.5 years in Spain and is still 27 years-old.
     
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  16. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Gaku Shibasaki is starting on the bench for the 3rd match in a row, and 4th match in the last 6 matches. His team is in last place of the Spanish second division.



    He only played in 2 matches of the last 5 matches (the ones in which he was in the starting line-up), this means he didn’t play a single minute in the last 2 matches.
     
  17. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    ... and he was an unused sub for the 3rd match in a row, while his team lost 1-3 at home to stay dead-last of the league standings.
     
  18. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Sad showing :(
    Seem things never get better for him.
     
  19. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Things will not get better for him until he gets better himself.
     
  20. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    True.
     
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  21. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    5th consecutive bench-start for Shibasaki.

    He didn’t play in the last 5 matches, last time he played was on 20/October.

    Deportivo la Coruña is dead last of the second division, they are six points adrift from safety.

    Shibasaki cannot get playing minutes for the team ranked 42nd in the Spanish league system, yet Moriyasu keeps calling him up and starting him instead of trying alternatives.
     
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  22. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It went from bad to worse to be honest. Did not think that would happend.
     
  23. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    To be honest, there aren't much options who are as good as Shibasaki even now in his role. Japan may lack a true creative CM who can dictate the pace and tempo of the game like what Shibasaki was able to do at the 2018 WC.
     
  24. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Agree but he so far from his WC form its just plain sad.
     

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