2019-2020 UEFA Referee Discussion [Rs]

Not surprised at all that Makkelie gets a pretty high-profile group stage opener. Is Kuipers still injured (I believe I saw that somwhere, but not sure yet), or has he retired from the FIFA list? I thought he was in the 45-year-old range, so I'm not sure what his status is at the moment.

 

Im not sure what you mean by real charisma. if you mean stature and overall command presence I agree with you. I think Taylor follows the referee tree in styles closer to Atkinson then he does Clattenburg. I think mike Oliver follows more clattenburg. Both styles can be effective I just think for UEFA competitions they favor Taylor more, which you noted. Im sure the backlash from the Juventus/Real Madrid match is still being felt.

Im curious if the assistants factor in at all. Bc I believe Gary beswick and Adam nunn (can't remember Taylor's AR2) are way more consistent than Stuart Burt and Simon Bennet.

Also Anthony Taylor doesn't have a rubbish bin instead of a heart.

 

I suspect that UEFA requires more than 70% on such a test.

 

Selected EL appointments:

PSV - Sporting CP: KRUZLIAK (SVK)
Rennes - Celtic: SANCHEZ MARTINEZ (ESP)
Cluj - Lazio: STEFANSKI (POL)
Frankfurt - Arsenal: MASSA (ITA)
Porto - Young Boys: TREIMANIS (LVA)
Rangers - Feyenoord: KASSAI (HUN)
Roma - Basaksehir: ESTRADA FERNANDEZ (ESP)
Wolves - Braga: KEHLET (DEN)
Partizan - Alkmaar: GUIDA (ITA)
Man United - Astana: LETEXIER (FRA)

 

Really remarkable how far Kassai has fallen. From the CL Final, World Cup semi-final, CL semi-finals, to the backwaters of the Europa League.

 

There is probably a case to be made that he rose almost too quickly. He did a World Cup semi-final and CL Final before he was 35 where most are getting those assignments at there late 30s or early 40s if they are really lucky.

The World Cup semi-final appointment he earned on performance in South Africa, but he was too young to get the 2011 CL Final. In hindsight, Collina and UEFA should have waited a year or two before giving it to him.

He pretty much reached the pinnacle of refereeing before he was 35 and still had 10 years to go.

Really hard to maintain that level of performance.

 

Without talking about each name, I heard that over a score of referees (M&F) failed the test and it should be fairly obvious who looking at CL/EL qualification appointments.

Kassai got injured at the weekend and is replaced by Antonio Mateu Lahoz in the Rangers - Feyenoord game.

 

I get why that’s not a red, but I want it to be. Full contact at high speed into the plant foot. I know the attacker’s saved because his leg is bent and no contact with the foot/studs, but to me that’s a possible leg breaker.

 

I saw this in real-time I think Cakir was trying to get out of the way and was in one of those rare too close to play moments. I initially thought yellow was sufficient and then I saw the amount of force and mode of contact and it leans me a bit more red. It's unfortunate too because Mason mount has scored in 3 of Chelsea's 5 games in the PL this season. He left the match unable to continue...

 

Chelsea v. Valencia. Such a tough penalty claim. From a supporter standpoint I want that PK but from a referee standpoint I never call that.

And Barkley misses PK. Lolz ‍♂️

 

The 2016 UCL Final and Euro Final referee says it's a penalty

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-Robertson-referee-Felix-Brych-got-right.html

 

My view regarding the interesting incidents last night:

I agree with Clattenburg, correct penalty by Brych that was correctly supported by Dankert. The crucial replay is between 16s and 18s - LIV player's left leg impedes NAP player's right leg: foul. All other replays only show NAP player's left leg and indeed point towards a simulation, and I guess seeing 4/5 angles like that give someone a confirmation bias that it was no foul. Quite tricky situation though that was probably solved more by intuition than perception by Brych on the pitch.

For my taste CHE player's injury after the tackle in 9' can be summarised: very painful bad luck. VAL totally cleanly plays the ball and his opponent's leg just happens to be there. For sure, the contact is of a SFP nature, no doubts about that, but I don't think that VAL player can be blamed for this piece of misfortune (it was quite 'weird' place for opponent to be, if you know what I mean). If we want to assess all such incidents as RCs, I have no problem with that, but I think a YC is the fairest / most common-sensical solution.
I would contrast that to potentially comparable situation in LIV-NAP last season, where Skomina should have sent off Van Dijk for SFP - that time it was clear that playing the ball would also mean hitting NAP player by tackling across him. On another note, if there was a leg break, UEFA would want a RC there according to their instructions...

I don't have such a big problem with the OFR that Letexier called Buquet for. SLA player's leg is caught on both sides by INT player's knees high up his shin. My view is that being hit like that with knees at force is just as dangerous as studs, and especially 'trapping' his opponent's leg could cause serious injury, particularly on the standing leg. I would rather praise Letexier for intervening against the background of UEFA allowing brutal tackles unpunished nowadays than criticise him. I would evaluate that scene as RC-SFP, though also seeing why Buquet did not change his decision.

And allowing goalkeepers off-the-line has become almost parodical now, I never thought I would see the day that FIFA applies the LotG better than UEFA in Busacca era.

 

It’s pretty telling zero Liverpool players went to argue the call with Brych. Surely professional players know a “total dive” when they see one and would be informing Brych of such. Guess it wasn’t a dive then, or at least an acceptable penalty.

 

That’s not a natural movement of the right leg for the Napoli player. He drags and extends his leg at an awkward angle to ensure that contact is made with the defender who has done a good job of avoiding contact until that point.