2019-20 Roster Movement Thread

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  1. vividox

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    #1 vividox, Sep 23, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2020
    ROSTER MOVEMENT:

    IN:
    11/26: Richard Sanchez (Re-Entry Draft)
    12/04: Roberto Puncec (HNK Rijeka)
    12/09: Khiry Shelton (SC Paderborn 07)
    12/10: Alan Pulido (Chivas Guadalajara)
    01/10: Amadou Dia (Phoenix Rising FC)
    01/13: Jaret Townsend (MLS SuperDraft)
    01/13: James Kasak (MLS SuperDraft)
    02/24: John Pulskamp (Homegrown Player)

    OUT:
    09/23: Yohan Croizet (mutual agreement)
    11/19: Jimmy Medranda (Nashville SC)
    11/19: Adrian Zendejas (Nashville SC)
    11/21: Seth Sinovic (Option declined)
    11/21: Benny Feilhaber (Option declined)
    11/21: Gedion Zelalem (Option declined)
    11/21: Krisztian Nemeth (Out of contract)
    11/21: Nico Hasler (Out of contract)
    11/21: Rodney Wallace (Out of contract)

    LOAN (IN):
    01/23: Gadi Kinda (Beitar Jerusalem)
    02/14: Winston Reid (West Ham United)

    LOAN (OUT):
    02/04: Eric Dick (Phoenix Rising)

    CURRENT APPROXIMATE DEPTH CHART:
    GK - Melia; Sanchez; Pulskamp
    CB - Besler; Reid; Baráth; Puncec; Smith; Fontas
    FB - Zusi; Martins; Dia; Lindsey; Kasak^
    DM - Espinoza; Ilie; Duke; Hernandez
    AM - Gutierrez; Kinda; Busio; Wan Kamal
    WF - Russell; Gerso; Salloi; Townsend^
    CF - Pulido; Shelton; Hurtado; Freeman

    * Option
    ^ Out of contract / not officially signed
    " Disabled list

    International Players: Baráth; Fontas; Gutierrez; Kinda; Martins; Pulido; Puncec; Reid; Russell; Salloi

    TIMELINE OF EVENTS:
    09/23: Yohan Croizet and Sporting Kansas City mutually agree to part ways
    11/19: Jimmy Medranda selected by Nashville SC in the Expansion Draft
    11/19: Adrian Zendejas to Nashville SC for $175 in G/TAM and an international roster spot
    11/21: Contract options declined on Sinovic, Feilhaber, and Zelalem
    11/21: Nemeth, Hasler, and Wallace are out of contract
    11/21: Options exercised on Dick, Smith, Fernandes, Hurtado, and Salloi
    11/26: Richard Sanchez acquired in the First Re-Entry Draft
    11/04: Roberto Puncec signed
    12/09: Khiry Shelton signed
    12/10: Alan Pulido signed for club record $9.5M fee
    01/10: Amadou Dia acquired from Phoenix Rising FC
    01/13: Jaret Townsend selected 58th overall in MLS SuperDraft
    01/13: James Kasak selected 84th overall in MLS SuperDraft
    01/23: Gadi Kinda on loan from Beitar Jerusalem with option to buy
    02/04: Eric Dick sent out on loan to Phoenix Rising
    02/14: Winston Reid on loan from West Ham United
    02/24: John Pulskamp signed as a Homegrown Player
     
  2. vividox

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    I know the depth chart is way off right now, I'll rearrange it (and contract stuff) once the mass exodus takes place.
     
  3. Buzz Killington

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    Martins, Nemeth, and Hasler are are internationals as well...
     
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  4. mschofield

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  5. vividox

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    These may not be 100% accurate, but according to transfermarkt:

    OUT OF CONTRACT:
    Busio, Wallace, Feilhaber, Sinovic, Hasler, Wan Kuzain, Dick, Zendejas, Smith, Freeman

    OPTION:
    Gerso, Salloi, Medranda, Zelalem, Hernandez, Lindsey

    UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2020:
    Melia, Besler, Fontas, Baráth, Zusi, Martins, Espinoza, Ilie, Duke, Gutierrez, Russell, Nemeth, Hurtado
     
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  6. Inca Roads

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    People keep talking like Vermes will absolutely clean house. I don't think he will to a huge degree. I expect to drop 5 or 6 to waivers and a couple more on trade.

    I strongly suspect he'll try to resign Busio and Smith. The others are probable? I don't know what the rules are when you sign an SPR player to a senior contract but then want to drop them back to SPR instead, like he probably would rather with Freeman or Wan Kuzain.

    I think he exercises all options except maybe Hernandez and Zelalem. We'll see.

    As for the guys still under contract, it depends on who we can actually move. If I remember right, you can cut one player and keep their salary off books. So with Croizet dropped, we can no longer free up cap space unless we directly sell or trade these guys away.

    Transfermarkt doesn't show it, but isn't Nemeth out of contract this offseason too?
     
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  7. mschofield

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    Nemeth signed with NE in August 2017. I guess a two year four month contract is possible. No one I can find seems to mention the duration. A 3 year deal is the most common late 20s deal signed, and they were in competition for him, so that's also possible.
     
  8. Inca Roads

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  9. mschofield

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  10. Buzz Killington

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    Here’s a thread I did based on stuff that SKC posted when players signed or other teams have, so it’s more accurate than transfermarkt. The only one I’m missing is Hernandez who SKC said is signed through 2020.

     
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  11. Buzz Killington

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    Too late to edit, but I’d missed Barath and Martins as well, so I did a new thread....

     
  12. Inca Roads

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    What is Barath's contract? It's not in your tweet.
     
  13. aletheist

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    #13 aletheist, Sep 24, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2019
    Click on the Tweet and scroll down to the rest of the list. Barath is under contract through 2020, with an option for 2021.

    EDIT: Here, I will just copy and paste it.

    2020
    Barath (21)
    Besler
    Busio (21,22)
    Espinoza
    Gutierrez (21)
    Hernandez (21,22)
    Kuzain (21,22)
    Melia (21)
    Russell (21)

    2021
    Ilie (22)
    Lindsey (22)
    Martins (22)
    Zusi

    2022
    Duke (23)
    Fontas
    Freeman (23)
     
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  14. aletheist

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    Feilhaber and Zelalem seem like the only 2020 options unlikely to be exercised, maybe also Dick or Zendejas. I would not expect any of the players with expiring contracts (Hasler, Nemeth, Sinovic, Wallace) to be re-signed, with the possible exception of Sinovic.
     
  15. Inca Roads

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    Thank you! Sorry, no twitter here at work so sometimes I just get pieces of the tweets copied into the forums.

    I expect Zelalem to return, don't you? He's a talented kid with a solid upside but lower expectations.
     
  16. vividox

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    Lol, well that's radically different than transfermarkt. Mike's tweet gives us:

    OUT OF CONTRACT:
    Hasler, Nemeth, Sinovic, Wallace

    OPTION:
    Dick, Feilhaber, Gerso, Hurtado, Medranda, Salloi, Smith, Zelalem, Zendejas

    UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2020:
    Barath, Besler, Busio, Espinoza, Gutierrez, Hernandez, Wan Kuzain, Melia, Russell, Ilie, Lindsey, Martins, Zusi, Duke, Fontas, Freeman


    The SKC article posted above is in disagreement on the following:
    • Sinovic has an option in 2020
    • Nemeth has an option in 2020
    • Salloi is signed through 2020, option for 2021
     
  17. aletheist

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    I would expect him to return if he were still getting minutes, like he was earlier in the season. His recent absence from the field is why I am calling it unlikely that his option will be picked up.

    On the other hand, this makes it more likely in my mind that Sinovic will be back.
     
  18. vividox

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    Okay, so assuming that list is correct, I'd probably go with:

    FIRST CUTS: Nemeth, Wallace, Feilhaber, Hurtado
    SECOND CUTS: Sinovic, Salloi, Zelalem, Dick?, Zendejas?
    GTFO: Fontas
     
  19. Inca Roads

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    Fair question. I thought his absence had more to do with the return of Roger than anything. Vermes has leaned very, very heavily on his experienced midfielders this season, probably trying to pull us out of a tailspin. Hasn't gotten us anywhere and now we have guys like Zelalem and Busio seeing the field less than maybe they should. Oh well. It is what it is.

    I think Vermes would happily take an offer for Seth. Not sure if anyone will. There are probably a few expansion teams that are such messes that they could use a stable if glacial fullback option to shore things up.
     
  20. aletheist

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    United States
    In that case, one of them can just take Sinovic in the expansion draft, since I would be very surprised if he is protected. Who is on and off that list should be an interesting discussion topic when the time comes.
     
  21. Inca Roads

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    Agreed. I was thinking today that's why the dumped Croizet already--him off the books means no auto-protect, which gives Pete greater flexibility.
     
  22. Buzz Killington

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    Reports were that Zelalem had a fairly big jump in salary in his option years which is why I think most expect him to be gone. Or if he’s back, under a different contract.
     
  23. Buzz Killington

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  24. mschofield

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    Getting rid of Hurtado and Nemeth leaves us with Freeman as a 9, right? I'm not sure that's a great idea. At least Nemeth frees up a bunch of salary. Hurtado is an affordable bench option, but we have to have someone to come in and our recent history of luring 9s for the ages isn't particularly encouraging.
    We have to have alternatives and I have no idea what that means for us in MLS 2020. I mean, Miami rumors focus on Messi and Griezemann and Silva types. We clearly won't go in that direction. the other direction is finding young yet to make it talents, or reclamation projects such as Nemeth.
    That's hit or miss.
    My point is that, yeah, Nemeth is probably jettisoned. But the odds of upgrading are about 50/50, with the other half leaving us about where we are both in terms of contract and production.
    Final thought: Nemeth is out of contract and had a crap summer/fall. He looked good this spring, though. I'd resign him on a much lower dollar deal. I don't see him having million dollar options, anywhere.
     
  25. Buzz Killington

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    I don't think you re-sign Nemeth, even if he would go lower. There has to be marked change in this squad for next year and retaining both Nemeth and Hurtado doesn't bring about any change. The club isn't going to carry 3 strikers that can/could start, meaning one of those two needs to go or else we're liking looking at those 2 as our forward rotation in 2020 and that fills me with no confidence in improved performance from the #9 position next year.
     

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