Pre-match: 2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League: USA vs Cuba, November 19th

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League
    USA vs Cuba
    November 19th, 2019
    Truman Bodden Sports Complex
    Georgetown, Cayman Islands
    7:30 PM (ET)
    FS1, TUDN, and UniMas

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    The US need 3 points to qualify for The Nations League Semifinals.
     
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  2. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sweet!! All we need to do to qualify out of this group is travel down to a tiny Caribbean island and get a result against the bottom-of-the group team that we trounced earlier in the same competition at home. Coming off this latest solid result, we're a lock against this subpar competition.

    WHAT COULD GO WRONG??????
     
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  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am slightly nervous given our history in away matches. I'll never forget needing 90th minute heroics from Alan Gordon in order to beat an Antigua and Barbuda team who IIRC had a squad that was almost entirely composed of the worst team in USL.

    We'll win, but I think this will be closer to 2-0 and not 7-0.
     
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  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    A win in Orlando no less where we scored 4 goals.
     
  5. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope there are no big rain puddles!
     
  6. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the serious, we've played away to Cuba twice

    In 2008 we played Cuba in the WCQ semis in Havana, and won a very nervy 1-0 result:

    In 2016, we played a friendly in Havana, and won 2-0. Good game from Julian Green, fwiw. And closer than the scoreline indicates; Cuba was in it all the way, hit the post twice.

    Canada trounced this Cuba team 6-0 at home, then won by a much more modest 1-0 in the Caymans.

    To whatever extent you can extrapolate from these results, they suggest we have the edge but don't expect another onslaught. Plus, can you imagine how stoked the Cubans would be to scrape the result that knocked us out of the tournament?
     
  7. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Add to that losing to Jamaica in 2012 WCQ semis; the Barbados game in 2000 WCQ semis that was 0-0 well into the second half before we got four goals; and beyond Couva a number of other times we've had rough results v T&T (0-0 draw in 2016 WCQ semis where we were outplayed, losing 1-2 in the 2008 WCQ semis). The Caribbean is a nice place to visit but not an easy place to play.
     
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  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IF we do advance, there is no draw for the semi finals. The group winners will ranked 1 to 4 and 1 will play 4 and 2 will play 3.

    Mexico is going to beat Bermuda at home, so they'll be the 1 seed. If the US advances we will have 9 points which will put as no worse than 3rd with 2nd being a small possibility. Honduras is playing Trinidad at home, they should win that which would put them at #2. That leaves group D where Costa Rica and Haiti will play for the group. That is at The Saprissa, so you'd expect Costa Rica to win, but either way the winner of that group is likely going to be the 4 seed unless Trinidad stuns Honduras.

    So the semi final matchups are likely to be Mexico vs Costa Rica and Honduras vs USA
     
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  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Cannon and Lovitz will both be automatically eligible for English work permits in January with an appearance in this game. Cannon allegedly has UK interest, so it would be awful man management for Berhalter to not play him. Lovitz, sure, give him a cameo.

    Everyone else is either already eligible or needs multiple appearances to be eligible.
     
  10. Alberta_Soccer

    Sep 29, 2015
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Congratulations. You guys were clinical and earned the victory. Herdman got his tactics wrong and bad bounces and individual errors did us in.

    Canada has the talent to play with teams like the USA, but not the experience. More games are needed so the team learns how to manage big games and the emotions that come with it.

    Good luck in the semi final!
     
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  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, we win. No post-game thread?

    Where are all the whinners?
     
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  12. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Thanks for coming in here with honest assessment.

    We still need to beat cuba, so hold on.

    Hopefully El Salvador screws up, because Canada deserves to be in the Hex.
     
  13. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Presumably somewhere in the US next June? Any hints as to where, or nothing yet?

    (Though I guess if they ever want to let Mexico host something again, this is as good an opportunity as any.)
     
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  14. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    If you mean whiner, I'm one. Are you calling for a celebration?
     
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  15. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My XI
    —————Sargent—————-
    Boyd—————————Morris
    —————-Lletget—————-
    ——McKennie——Morales——
    Dest—————————-Cannon
    ————Brooks—-Long————
    ——————Guzan——————

    Subs:
    Yuiell - Morales - I came close to starting Yuiell, but it’s fair to give Morales his shot with the team.

    Yedlin - Boyd - I think he belongs at FB but I can go along with the wing thing for a game due to lack of superior options and want Dest/Cannon to go 90.

    Lovitz - to allow him to qualify for a WP and hopefully transfer abroad so we never have to see him again.
     
  16. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Morales and Yueill do not equate. Yueill gives you a much more compete player at that spot than Morales does.
     
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  17. Felix Herve Caroll

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Ivory Coast
    1-0 should be enough to qualify.
     
  18. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No “should” about it. We win, we too the group; we don’t win, Canada does. Last nights game took goal difference out of the equation.
     
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  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think all five fullbacks need to start since only one started in the last game. Now be creative and build a team around them (hints - Cannon started the last FCD game at left winger, Dest used to be a midfielder, Yedlin has played wingback before etc)!
     
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  20. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He should have come off the bench last night instead of Yedlin, for that purpose. Dest could have moved into the attack.

    If Berhalter doesn't play Cannon next week in a match where we should be expected to dominate the opponent and when he's been a reliable player, then he or someone else doesn't want him to go to Europe. Can't reasonably determine anything else. Although I'm sure some excuse would be made, like it's must win, Cuba threatens us, and he's a little behind others.

    Mind you, Berhalter claimed Pomykal needed to test himself in Europe before he was integrated to the national team. But not giving him more caps helped facilitating him staying in Dallas. And Gregg plays a plethora of MLS lifers or newbies with less potential to move than the likes of Pomykal or Cannon.
     
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  21. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I kinda want to see Morris given a start at CF.
     
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  22. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, El Salvador! Knock Canada out of contention for the Hex!
     
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  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    3-1 up with 10 minutes to go, I get bringing on Yedlin. Not as a winger, mind you, but I don't have a problem with Yedlin over Cannon there.

    This though, 100%. Cuba is basically a freebie - there really isn't an excuse not to play Cannon unless the reasoning is what you laid out.
     
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  24. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Which probably means he won’t.
     
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  25. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United
    Aug 3, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I don't want to see the USA beat Cuba. I want to see the USA *crush* Cuba. 7-0 last time. I want to see a multiple goal shutout. No goals allowed. No breakdowns. No bad passes out of the back.
     
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