2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Qualifying is over and the draw happened today. The US will play in Group A with Canada and Cuba. We'll play both teams twice (once at home and once away). The 4 games will happen across The September, October, and November FIFA Windows. The winner of the group will advance to the semifinals next March, and the 3rd place team will be relegated to League B.


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  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I was really hoping for Bermuda for an awesome away leg. Little disappointed, but looking forward to USA - Canada.
     
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  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still not sure how specific TV rights work for this tournament. The qualifiers and draw could only be viewed via FloSports, which requires a monthly or annual subscription. I really hope I don't have to turn to that for US games
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Will Cuba have any players left after away games in Canada and USA?
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the people who were worried about travel, and having to play on shitty fields, this is a pretty damn nice draw. That Cuba pitch wont' be great, but 3 out of 4 matches being in MLS Stadiums is about as good as you could have hoped for.

    Though if you're looking at this as a valuable chance to get some World Cup Qualifying experience, I wouldn't have minded a game in Central America.
     
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  8. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    This is probably a "tougher" draw than it could be, but I like the natural rivals of Canada and Cuba. I'm sorta, kinda, in to this.

    The fact that no one cares about this to post except for @Sebsasour does not bode well. I just took over 30 seconds to figure out who BER was, and I'm posting here, so :(:oops:
     
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  9. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Is it possible at this one moment that Canada are better than we are? If they had a backline, then I might say yes.
     
  10. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Gold Cup that never ends. Lord, why have you forsaken us?
     
  11. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
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  12. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    This is how we crap on our own players and deify everyone else's players.

    Davies is a part time sub that has never played in a game where the outcome was in doubt. Yes, it is for a top club. But people say Pulisic has been having a terrible year for doing more. They also think Sargent should be with the U23s for basically getting more minutes, in competitive games, for a team also at the top of the Bundesliga table.

    Larin is a good player on a good team in a mid-tier Euro league. Is he really that different than Novacovich that can't even get a call up? Besiktas is a better club than FS, but Nova has more league goals this season. Gall is playing Europa League as is Weah.

    I don't know what kind of roster GB will use nor how much they will care to finish first and play in the championship. I think all our U23 dual nationals, that are not included in the GC, should be in the first game.
     
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  13. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our Canadian friends are fired up.

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  14. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    No. The U.S is more talented and deeper.

    But unlike 10 years ago, Canada can steal a win now if a few of their players really ball out on game day.
     
  15. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pleased to get an away game at Canada. It'll be our first competitive match (and only second total) away to Canada since 1997.
     
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  16. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I for one am truly looking forward to the upcoming roster wars here on BS about this tournament. Figure it'll be a strong battle between the "We should use the kids and dual-nationals to cap tie them" to "we need to bring our full team to prepare them for World Cup qualifying" with a dash of "why are we bringing these guys from Europe - they need to stay and integrate with their teams" and "how come we keep using MLSSUM players?!?!?!".

    On a serious note, I imagine that only once will we have 2 CNL games in the same window, so keep in mind it'll likely be a friendly plus a CNL game. My guess is we'll probably using as close to the A team as we can get for these as a result.
     
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  17. 2in10

    2in10 Member

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow that's... one way to structure this tournament. If that's how they are going to do it, my guess would be H/A with Cuba in October (knowing we'd need to match Canada's performance and maybe even exceed it by GD) and then a final H/A against Canada. (So Sept: 2 vs 3, Oct: 1 vs 3, Nov: 1 vs 2 in a home and away format?).
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    3-team groups always lend themselves to dumb formats, but it takes real Concacaf know-how to go and make it this dumb.

    If these games are being played across three FIFA match windows, there's no reason at all to not have 4-team groups.
     
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  20. 2in10

    2in10 Member

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except to have 3 Leagues with 4 groups of 4 so one team from each group would promote from Leagues B and C and one team from each group would relegate from Leagues A and B would require 48 teams. Concacaf has only 41 members.
     
  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure Cuba is going to love playing in the US and Canada in the dead of winter...
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #22 Robert Borden, Mar 28, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2019
    I might actually go to Cuba for the away game, Havana is a fascinating city and unbelievably safe.

    Doubtful, Our offense is our main strength, midfield can compete but defense is still a massive question mark, more specifically CB. Borjan is a champions league caliber keeper so he might have to clean their mess but he can't do everything

    Doneil Henry makes me angry with his tackles in the box, Cornelius is promising but needs to grow more, James is fast and good. I'd say that without Tomori or/and Ferreira committing by fall, the US coach should exploit us there. RB and LB are good.

    Defense doing their job makes the team formidable overall otherwise, we get punish there against stronger teams
     
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  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Fixable.

    League A - 3 groups of 4
    League B - 4 groups of 4
    League C - 3 groups of 3, 1 group of 4

    League A: Group winners + best runner-up make finals, bottom teams relegated

    League B: Group winners make finals, bottom teams relegated - semifinal winners promoted, third-place winner promoted

    League C: Group winners promoted
     
  24. 2in10

    2in10 Member

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup the vagaries of not having the right number of teams for symmetry.
     
  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably wanted to allow teams to still schedule a couple friendlies.
     
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