Pre-match: 2018 World Cup Qualifying: USA vs Honduras; March 24th in San Jose

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  1. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would sub out Green for Notsogood.
     
  2. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why?
     
  3. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    I don't think he's been good for the US at all, and these are must-win games and I'd rather have someone I knew I could count on to at least run his face off trying than someone who's club form is giving him a free pass to be mediocre.

    I realize that's at odds with the idea that everyone should get a fresh start under Arena, but I'm tired of watching attacks die at his feet and hearing about his "pedigree" when he is middling at best for the NT.
     
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  4. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he's our best winger and LB
     
  5. JWMissoula

    JWMissoula Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    I like Green a lot and am very optimistic about his future, but I cannot fathom a rationale for starting him ahead of Wood at this time, especially with what I have seen from Wood in the last few games.
     
  6. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way Green starts over the Terminator.
     
  7. nowherenova

    nowherenova Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Formerly Terminus
    :ninja:Alexi thinks Rimando will start.
     
  8. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    In FIFA 17, maybe.

    He's not even close to that in terms of how he actually plays.
     
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  9. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well as far as known quantities go... Who else? Castillo, Ream, Lichaj? The latter 2 have only seen action in that Puerto Friendly last May. There's Villafana, who's only played against Jamaican and Serbian C teams, but I don't see how you can want the safe pick, and say we should sit Fab.
     
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  10. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude FJ plays on a CL team...big difference from the MMLS.
     
  11. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    The fact that he plays for a CL team has zero bearing on how he plays for us, and serves as a blinder for a lot of otherwise bright people when it comes to evaluating how he plays for the US.

    Fair point. Perhaps I should clarify my point and say that unless he's playing LB I'd prefer he not be on the field.

    As a midfielder, he's mediocre for the US.
     
  12. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who should Bruce use then in MF instead of FJ?
     
  13. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    As far as productive wide attackers are concerned, there are multiple better options.

    Gyasi Zardes is a more productive NT player than Fabian Johnson. Consider that.
     
  14. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gyasinho??? :ROFLMAO:
     
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  15. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    Ball don't lie; Zardes shows better for the NT in the midfield, comedy first touches and all.

    Johnson should be at LB or on the bench.
     
  16. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No thanks to the donkey touch
     
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  17. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His performances have dropped in quality since the World Cup. However, he's still easily our best LB right now and any player one might argue to get a chance there in the future is untested. Villafana I'd like to see gold cup but not to start in march. Beasley I'll pass. Ream isn't a LB outside of in a pinch. Lichaj and Chandler both play on the right. Lichaj has been used on the left more than Chandler but I'd want either to have a camp of reps prior.

    In the midfield I think his performances suffered because of a lack of continuity. When he spoke with Bruce his comments were very telling. Bruce asked him where he wanted to play, he said anywhere Bruce thinks would most benefit the team but that once Bruce settles on that position to leave him there. Wish I could find the article.

    I'd still take him over Bedoya or Zardes but don't have time for that debate.
     
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  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    How about we settle on Johnson performs poorly for the NT and Zardes doesn't belong?
     
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  19. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #44 TheHoustonHoyaFan, Feb 9, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2017
    Last Cycle's Hex home match v Honduras! Fun to watch Fab perform poorly!

    The sequence starting at 37 secs illustrates one of the big difference between Fab for club and Fab for the USMNT. It starts with JJ dropping a 40 yd pass on a dime to a sprinting Fab...

     
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  20. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    I know when I want to counter a point about a guy being mediocre since 2013, I use a video of a game from...2013.
     
  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My group:

    GK: Howard, Guzan, Rimando

    RB: Yedlin, Chandler

    LB: Villafana, Johnson

    CB: Brooks, Birnbaum, Zimmerman, Hedges (Marshall)

    DM: Bradley, Cameron (Morales)

    CM: Feilhaber, Kljestan

    L/RM: Nagbe, Pulisic, Arriola, Lletget

    FW: Altidore, Wood, Morris, Green
    ------

    ----Altidore--Wood-----
    Nagbe--Feilhaber--Pulisic
    ----------Bradley--------
    Johnson-------------Yedlin
    ---Brooks--Zimmerman--
    ----------Guzan-------------
     
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  22. jazzhands

    jazzhands Member

    Feb 9, 2017
    Portland, OR
    not sure why the US has always had a problem putting two creative midfielders on the pitch. sascha and benny could work some magic against honduras, but i think they are thought of as the same type of player - and US coaches "must" have a more defensive player in the middle. reminds me of reyna and ramos in '98... why not play both?
     
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  23. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    That's damn near exactly what I'd have, though I prefer Fab as a winger and I'd think hard about calling Hyndman.
     
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  24. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I love the props for Arriola and don't mind Lichaj at all, at all.

     
  25. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    Lichaj should have been getting calls up the last 5 years.
     

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