2018 Union Schedule - Home Opener Saturday, March 3, 2018

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  1. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was looking at NYCFC’s recent slide and odds of the Union catching them.. they have an easy schedule to close out the season so odds would be super slim, hard to suspend disbelief there that U could ever pull off third even if the hot streak continues... plus if we assume DCU is the 6 spot, i think they may be even more dangerous than Columbus in the 5 so maybe better off being at the 4.
     
  2. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    Shit... last nights result, and results around us, this is not good guys... I DON'T THINK I BELIEVE ANYMORE. If DCU wins this afternoon I'm officially hitting the panic button... our loss with the draw just made catching the Crew REALLY hard... and now the Impact and everyone else below us are making up a lot of ground.

    DOOMSDAY TABLE

    4. Crew - 44
    5. Union - 40
    6. Impact (29 games) - 39
    -----------------------------
    7. DCU (if they win) - 37
    8. Revs - 34




    Union upcoming schedule:

    @ Seattle
    KC ... Before open cup (Heavily rotated squad?)
    @ Houston for open cup final
    @ Crew - they could bury us here
    v. Minnesota (the one "easy game")
    v. Red Bulls
    @ NYCFC


    This isn't great looking guys....

    shit...

    DC is home the rest of the year aside from the season finale v. Chicago
    I really they could pass us at this point... then it's up to the Union to beat out Montreal/the Revs for the 6 spot... neither team's schedule looks particularly favorable, but with only a 1 point lead over Montreal I think the impact may have more points to be had than the U...

    i'm worried... very worried.
     
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  3. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DCU TIED!
     
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  4. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lifeline, but not out of the woods
     
  5. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oddly enough I had projected DCU to tie that match and still push the Union for either the 5th or 6th spot. 0 points for them in that match would have been preferable.
     
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  6. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best cases for the week:

    two Union wins (obviously)
    Portland takes out Crew
    San Jose over Atlanta
    RBNY over TFC
    Chicago over Revs
    Rapids over Crew
    Houston over Olrando
    NYCFC over Montreal




    This week's Dream Table:

    1. Red Bull - 59
    2. Atlanta - 57
    3. NYCFC - 52
    4. ***ZOLOS*** - 46
    5. Columbus - 44
    6. Impact - 39
    -------------------------------------
    7. DCU - 35
    8. Revs - 34
    9. TFC - 30
    10. Chicago - 30
    11. Orlando - 24



    This week's Doomsday Table:

    4. Columbus - 50
    5. Impact - 42
    6. ***ZOLOS*** - 40
    -----------------------------------
    7. Revs - 37
    8. DCU - 35
    9. TFC - 33
     
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  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal and NYCFC end 1 all.

    Crew beat Colorado

    Revs and Fire end knotted at 2

    Red Bulls and Atlanta won

    Mixed bag for the Union today
     
  8. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ties from the Revs and Montreal are pretty good results.... if they pull off a win this afternoon setting up a huge 6 pointer with Columbus.
     
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  9. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This week's wish list.. all eyes on the 4 spot:

    Chicago loss to LAFC (I guess)
    NYCFC loss to MNU
    Impact v. DCU... pick your poison.... I'll just go with a draw.
    TFC over New England
    Atlanta over Red Bulls
    And a HUGE Union win over Columbus to launch them into 4th place.

    Fantasy Table:

    1. ATL - 66
    2. RBNY - 59
    3 .NYCFC - 53
    4. ***ZOLOS*** - 49
    5. Crew - 47
    6. Impact - 41
    ----------------------------------
    7. DCU - 36
    8. Revs - 35
    9. TFC - 33
    10. Fire - 28
    11. Orlando - 25
     
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  10. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there a crack pipe involved in any of this prognostication?
     
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  11. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't expect any of this to happen... just laying out best case scenarios.
     
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  12. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This week, if Montreal beats Columbus and the Union beat Minnesota, the Union would clinch a playoff spot and would have a 2 point lead over Columbus (and the tiebreaker) with 2 games to go.
     
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  13. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    T
    That's a whole lot of "IFS".
     
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  14. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really. Current odds:

    Montreal +131
    Draw +246
    Columbus +202

    Union - 189
    Draw +347
    Minnesota +451

    Both Montreal and the Union winning at home are the most likely results.
     
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  15. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #140 thomas19064, Oct 4, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2018
    The Wish list.....

    Impact beat Crew
    Revs beat Atlanta
    Whitecaps beat TFC (eliminated)
    Dallas beats Orlando (eliminated)
    San Jose beats the Red Bulls

    and a glorious Union victory over the Loons to clinch the playoffs and vault into 4th place.
    On top of that the Impact and Revs would not be able to c

    1. ATL - 63
    2. RBNY - 62
    3. NYCFC - 53

    4. ***ZOLOS*** - 50
    5. Crew - 48
    6. Impact - 43
    ---------------------------------------------
    7. DCU - 38
    8. Revs - 38
    9. TFC - 33
    10. Chicago - 31
    11. Orlando - 25


    Soon the question will shift to, who do we want to face in the playoffs. Crew at home? Impact at home? I personally wouldn't want to go up against DCU if/when they get in the 6 spot... so passing NYCFC in that case gives me pause... ABSOLUTE best case scenario would be the Revs sneaking in the 6 spot and the Union in the 3 spot, but those odds seem astronomical.

    I think it's also safe to say we want Atlanta to win the Shield and finish top of the table, would much rather face RBNY home/away than ATL. (plus, ******** the Red Bulls winning more hardware)
     
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  16. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure who I want between ATL & RBNY. As much as I hate to admit it, down the stretch the Red Bulls have looked solid. I think we may fair better against ATL.

    (Although, I don't think we stand a chance against either in a 2-leg matchup)
     
  17. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel ya, but there is that feeling we play well against the Red Bulls.

    That said, it's not like our all-time record against them is great....
    by my count in all competitive games our record against RBNY is:

    9 wins
    5 draws
    14 losses

    a win and a tie this year....

    Our record against Atlanta has been shit... but obviously small sample size.

    0 wins
    1 draw
    3 losses
     
  18. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We want:

    1. NYRB
    2. Atlanta
    3. NYCFC
    4. Union
    5. Crew

    Home playoff game against Columbus (rather than DC or Montreal) is a no-brainer.

    We also would rather play Red Bull in the next round. It will be extremely difficult to beat Atlanta in Atlanta in the second leg. I think we stand a better chance against Red Bull. AND, we all would get to go to all three playoff games if we wanted.

    That said, winning one playoff game is going to be a huge task. Winning a two-leg semifinal seems extremely unlikely.

    Question: If the 6 seed beats the 3 seed, does the 6 seed play the 1 seed or the 2 seed in the next round? In other words, if the Union finish as the 4 or 5 seed, are they locked into playing the 1 seed if they win or is their second round opponent dependent upon what happens in the 3-6 game?
     
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  19. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They will reseed after the knockout play-ins according to:
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018...yoffs-schedule-revealed-final-be-played-dec-8

    CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS - Nov 4 & 11
    Two-game series, aggregate-goal, home-and-home format between conference top seed vs. lowest advancing seed from Knockout Round and conference second seed vs. highest seed from Knockout Round
     
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  20. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In that case, it doesn't really matter which teams finish 1-2. If the Union finish 4-5 and win, the opponent will be determined by the 3-6 winner.
     
  21. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Knockout game is on Halloween night. That stinks.
     
  22. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has that been announced? All I see online is that the game would be 10/31 or 11/1.

    That's why getting the 4th seed is so important. If the Union get the 5th seed, they play at NYCFC on Sunday afternoon, regen on Monday, fly to Columbus on Tuesday and may have to play Wednesday night. If they win (possibly in 120), they come back home to play a rested Red Bull or Atlanta team on Sunday.
     
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  23. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ughhhh really???
     
  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait...I thought all playoff games were going to be on weekends this year?
     
  25. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry. A knock-out game is on Halloween Night. I don't know which game. I assume one West and one East game for each the 31st and 1st. That means 50:50 shot it may be us if we clinch. A home Halloween match would force some tough decisions to be made.... actually I think I already have tickets; sorry kids :eek:

    From the mlssoccer.com link above:
     
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