2018 U.S. Open Cup schedule

Discussion in 'US Open Cup' started by newtex, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    This is the schedule of events put out by the USSF so far:

    https://www.ussoccer.com/lamar-hunt-us-open-cup/2018-us-open-cup-schedule

    We should be hearing soon how many teams will be playing from the various leagues and the rest of the Cup dates.

    Wednesday, April 4 - 2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup First Round pairings and Second Round possible matchups announced

    Wednesday, May 9 - 2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup First Round; Dates for remaining rounds of the competition and deadlines to apply to host in these rounds will be determined by January 2018

    Possible number of teams in the tournament:

    Qualifying Tournament - 14 teams
    NPSL - 18 teams
    PDL - 21 teams
    USL - 22 teams
    MLS - 20 teams

    Total - 95

    Has anyone else heard numbers from NPSL and PDL? I think the USL and MLS numbers are correct.

    Breaking down the rounds is going to be interesting. If they do it the same way as last year we would have something like this:

    1st round: Add 1 more amateur teams to get to 54. Give 14 of them a bye into the 2nd round. The remaining 40 are matched up. 20 winners advance.
    2nd round: The 20 winners + 14 byes + 22 USL teams = 56 teams. 28 winners advance.
    3rd round: The 28 winners are paired up. 4 MLS teams are paired up. The 16 winners advance.
    4th round: The 16 winners meet the remaining 16 MLS teams.
    5th round: 16 winners
    Quarterfinals: 8 winners
    Semifinals: 4 winners
    Final: 2 winners

    Or they could do something completely different.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Looking at the USL and MLS schedules I see these mid-weeks are open for eligible U.S. teams.

    May 16 - No USL games
    May 23 - No USL games
    June 6 - No USL or MLS games
    June 20 - No USL or MLS games
    June 27 - No MLS games
    August 1 - No MLS games
    August 8 - No MLS games

    I don't see any really free Wednesdays in July but things could be worked out for teams that advance.
     
  3. mike the mas

    mike the mas Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    My guess is that the USL will start in round 3 this year. I'm working with the assumption that no NASL teams will play. My count is 20 MLS teams and 22 USL teams that are eligible. If that is the case, then you have

    Round 1: 52 Amateur teams*
    Round 2: 26 Winners plus 22 USL teams
    Round 3: 24 Winners
    Round 4: 12 Winners plus 20 MLS teams
    Round 5: 16 Winners
    Quarters: 8 Winners
    Semis: 4 Winners
    Final: 2 Winners

    *We know that there were 14 amateur teams from Open Qualifying. However, one of those(El Farolito) have been disqualified due to switching leagues. So there are 13 Open Qualifying teams that need to be in the first round. That leaves 39 other spots in the 1st round. Based on the ratio of the last few years, I would guess that 21 PDL and 18 NPSL teams get invited to the 1st round. This doubly works,as these are the same number as last year, even if it only works out that way by accident.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...-2018-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format-finalized

    Prize money has increased:
    • The winner of this year’s Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup will receive $300,000 (up from $250,000 last year). The tournament runner-up will receive $100,000 (up from $60,000) and the team that advances the furthest from each lower division will earn $25,000 (up from $15,000).
    2018 Format:

    1st Round (May 9) - 52 local, PDL, and NPSL teams face off, 26 games

    2nd Round (May 16) - 26 winners join 22 USL teams, 24 games

    3rd Round (May 23) - 24 winners face off, 12 games

    4th Round (June 6) - 12 winners join 20 MLS teams, 16 games
    • Similar to the Round of 16, pairings for the Fourth Round will now be made by random draw after dividing teams geographically into groups of four and drawing matchups within each group. Each Fourth Round group will have at least one and no more than two Third Round winners, with pairs drawn so that each Third Round winner faces an MLS team.
    Round of 16 into the Final - Same as last year. 16 winners divided into 4 regions. Pairings and hosting randomly drawn after that.

    Round of 16 (June 20)

    Quarterfinals (July 18)

    Semifinals (August 8)

    Final (September 26)
     
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  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Open Division Teams (52 total, all entering in the First Round):

    Local Qualifiers (13 teams, listed alphabetically by state):
    Arizona (1): Sporting AZ FC
    California (3): La Máquina*, LA Wolves FC*, Santa Ana Winds
    Colorado (2): Azteca FC*, FC Denver
    Florida (2): FC Kendall, Red Force FC*
    Maryland (1): Christos FC*
    Massachusetts (1): Kendall Wanderers
    New York (2): Lansdowne Bhoys FC, Rochester River Dogz
    Texas (1): NTX Rayados*

    PDL (20 teams, listed alphabetically): Charlotte Eagles (N.C.)*, FC Golden State Force (Calif.)*, FC Miami City (Fla.), FC Tucson (Ariz.)*, Lakeland Tropics (Fla.), Long Island Rough Riders (N.Y.), Michigan Bucks*, Mississippi Brilla FC, Myrtle Beach Mutiny (S.C.), New York Red Bulls U23, Ocean City Nor’easters (N.J.)*, OKC Energy U23 (Okla.)*, Portland Timbers U23 (Ore.), Reading United AC (Pa.)*, San Francisco City FC (Calif.), Seacoast United Phantoms (N.H.), SIMA Aguilas (Fla.), South Georgia Tormenta FC, The Villages SC (Fla.)*, Western Mass Pioneers*

    NPSL (19 teams, listed alphabetically): AFC Ann Arbor (Mich.)*, Brooklyn Italians (N.Y.), CD Aguiluchos USA (Calif.), Dakota Fusion FC (N.D.), Detroit City FC (Mich.), Duluth FC (Minn.), Elm City Express (Conn.), Erie Commodores (Pa.), FC Arizona, FC Motown (N.J.) (formerly Clarkstown SC Eagles)*, FC Wichita (Kan.)*, Fort Worth Vaqueros (Texas), Inter Nashville FC (Tenn.), Kingston Stockade FC (N.Y.), Kitsap Soccer Club (Wash.), Miami United FC (Fla.)*, Midland-Odessa FC (Texas), New Orleans Jesters (La.), Orange County FC (Calif.)
     
  6. mike the mas

    mike the mas Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    I was damn close. Anyone know why des moines isn't in?
     
  7. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    I wish MLS would join in a round earlier. Too many all MLS games in the last 32. If they had a round of 64 with the 20 MLS teams + 22 USL teams + 22 qualifiers. It's not like the Premier League teams drop in in the last 32 of the FA Cup. Part of the magic of a cup competition is you get to play teams from a different division.
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 words...(MLS) fixture congestion
     
  9. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    their 23 points from the regular season might not have been enough
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    http://thecup.us/2017/08/04/predicting-which-pdl-teams-will-play-in-the-2018-us-open-cup/

    This article is from last July indicating that Des Moines was not going to make the top 21 from PDL.

    The standings from that article indicating that Des Moines only had 23 points with no games left and it was going to take at least 26 to qualify.

    20. The Villages SC 26 0
    21. FC Boulder U-23s 26 0
    22. San Francisco City FC 25 0
    23. South Georgia Tormenta FC 25 0
    24. Des Moines Menace 23 0
     
  11. mike the mas

    mike the mas Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    Yeah I thought they would get in as the best placed american team in the heartland. But the division champ slots don't get passed down if a Canadian team wins a division.
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    MORE DETAILS ON THE STORY:

    Officially this an invitation only at this point but it seems likely that they will accept the invitation.

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...-2-new-york-cosmos-b-invited-to-2018-open-cup

    The USSF is going to create a play-in round so the NY Cosmos B, Miami FC 2, and Jacksonville Armada will get to face nearby NPSL or PDL teams with the winners advancing to the 1st round of the Open Cup.

    Those games will be May 5-6 ahead of the May 9 First Round.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...ksonville-armada-miami-fc-2-new-york-cosmos-b

    The NY Cosmos B, Miami FC 2, and Jacksonville Armada accepted the invitation from the USSF to take part in the 2018 U.S. Open Cup.

    The USSF picked out some already qualified NPSL and PDL teams that were geographically close to them and then drew to see who would meet in the Play-In Round.

    The Villages SC (PDL) vs. Jacksonville Armada
    FC Miami City (PDL) vs. Miami FC 2
    Brooklyn Italians (NPSL) vs. New York Cosmos B

    The teams listed first get the option to host the games on May 5-6.
     
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  15. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #15 newtex, Apr 4, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2018
    The Play-In and First Round pairings have been announced. The 2nd round pairings announcement has been delayed until April 11.

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...soc-first-round-pairings-for-2018-us-open-cup

    2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup
    Home team first, times are ET

    Play-In Round

    May 5-6
    The Villages SC (PDL) v. Jacksonville Armada (NPSL)
    FC Miami City (PDL) v. Miami FC 2 (NPSL)

    Sunday, May 6
    May 6 Brooklyn Italians (NPSL) v. New York Cosmos B (NPSL) 8:00 pm

    First Round

    Northeast Region
    Wednesday, May 9
    AFC Ann Arbor (MI) (NPSL) v. Ocean City Nor'easters (MD) (PDL) 6:00 pm
    Western Mass Pioneers (PDL) v. Elm City Express (CT) (NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Long Island Rough Riders (PDL) v. Kingston Stockade FC (NY) (NPSL) 7:00 pm
    FC Motown (NJ) (NPSL) v. New York Red Bulls U23 (PDL) 7:00 pm
    Reading United AC (PA) (PDL) v. Christos FC (MD) 7:00 pm
    Erie Commodores FC (NPSL) v. Rochester River Dogz (NY) 7:00 pm
    Seacoast United Phantoms (MA) (PDL) v. Kendall Wanderers (MA) 7:00 pm
    Detroit City FC (NPSL) v. Michigan Bucks (PDL) 7:30 pm
    New York Cosmos B (NPSL)/Brooklyn Italians (NPSL) winner v. Lansdowne Bhoys FC (NY) 7:30/8:00 pm

    Southeast Region
    Wednesday, May 9
    SIMA Aguilas (FL)(PDL) v. The Villages SC (FL) (PDL)/Jacksonville Armada (NPSL) winner 7:00 pm
    Charlotte Eagles (PDL) v. Inter Nashville FC (NPSL) 7:00 pm
    New Orleans Jesters (NPSL) v. Mississippi Brilla FC (PDL) 7:00 pm
    Myrtle Beach Mutiny (SC) (PDL) v. South Georgia Tormenta FC (PDL) 7:10 pm
    Miami United FC (NPSL) v. FC Kendall (FL) 7:30 pm
    Red Force FC (FL) v. FC Miami City (PDL)/Miami FC 2 (NPSL) winner 8:30 pm

    Central Region
    Wednesday, May 9
    FC Wichita (KS)(NPSL) v. OKC Energy U23 (PDL) 8:00 pm
    Duluth FC (MN)(NPSL) v. Dakota Fusion FC (ND) (NPSL) 8:00 pm
    Midland-Odessa Sockers FC (TX) (NPSL) v. Lakeland Tropics (FL) (PDL) 8:30 pm
    NTX Rayados (TX) v. Fort Worth Vaqueros (NPSL) 8:30 pm
    FC Denver (CO) v. Azteca FC (CO) 9:15 pm

    West Region
    Tuesday, May 8
    Portland Timbers U23 (PDL) v. Kitsap Soccer Club (WA) (NPSL) 10:00 pm

    Wednesday, May 9
    CD Aguiluchos USA (CA) (NPSL) v. San Francisco City FC (PDL) 9:00 pm
    FC Golden State Force (CA)(PDL) v. L.A. Wolves FC (Calif.) 10:00 pm
    Orange County FC (CA) (NPSL) v. Santa Ana Winds FC (CA) 10:00 pm
    FC Arizona (NPSL) v. Sporting AZ FC (AZ) 10:00 pm
    FC Tucson (PDL) v. La Máquina FC (CA) 10:30 pm

    The 2nd round is May 16.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Update on the Play-In Round with hosts, dates, and times:

    2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup
    Home team first, times are ET

    Play-In Round

    Sunday, May 6
    FC Miami City (PDL) v. Miami FC 2 (NPSL) 7:00 pm
    Jacksonville Armada (NPSL) v. The Villages SC (PDL) 7:00 pm
    Brooklyn Italians (NPSL) v. New York Cosmos B (NPSL) 8:00 pm
     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup
    Home team first, times are ET

    2nd Round
    Pairings
    Due to conditional scenarios these are listed irrespective of hosts.

    Northeast Region
    Wednesday, May 16
    North Carolina FC (USL) v. Brooklyn Italians (NPSL)/New York Cosmos B (NPSL)/Lansdowne Bhoys FC (NY) winner 7:00 pm

    Charlotte Independence (USL) v. AFC Ann Arbor (NPSL)/Ocean City Nor'easters (PDL) winner 7:00 pm

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC (USL) v. Erie Commodores FC (NPSL)/Rochester River Dogz (NY) winner 7:00 pm

    Richmond Kickers (USL) v. Reading United AC (PDL)/Christos FC (MD) winner 7:00 pm

    Louisville City FC (USL) v. Kingston Stockade FC (NPSL)/ Long Island Rough Riders (PDL) winner 7:00 pm

    Penn FC (USL) v. FC Motown (NPSL)/New York Red Bulls U23 (PDL) winner 7 or 7:30 pm

    Western Mass Pioneers (PDL)/Elm City Express (NPSL) winner v. Seacoast United Phantoms (PDL)/Kendall Wanderers (MA) winner 7 or 7:30 pm

    FC Cincinnati (USL) v. Detroit City FC (NPSL)/Michigan Bucks (PDL) winner 7:30 pm

    Southeast Region
    Wednesday, May 16
    Charleston Battery (USL) v. Myrtle Beach Mutiny (PDL)/South Georgia Tormenta FC (PDL) winner 7:00 pm

    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL) v. SIMA Aguilas (PDL)/Jacksonville Armada FD/ The Villages SC (PDL) winner 7 or 7:30 pm

    Miami United FC (NPSL)/FC Kendall (FL) winner v. Red Force FC (FL)/FC Miami City (PDL)/Miami FC 2 (NPSL) winner 7/7:30 or 8:30 pm


    Indy Eleven (USL) v. New Orleans Jesters (NPSL)/Mississippi Brilla FC (PDL) winner 8:00 pm

    Nashville SC (USL) v. Charlotte Eagles (PDL)/Inter Nashville FC (NPSL) winner 8:30 pm

    Central Region
    Wednesday, May 16
    Tulsa Roughnecks FC (USL) v. FC Wichita (NPSL)/OKC Energy U23 (PDL) winner 8:00 pm

    Saint Louis FC (USL) v. Duluth FC (NPSL)/Dakota Fusion FC (NPSL) winner 8:00 pm

    OKC Energy FC (USL) v. NTX Rayados (TX)/Fort Worth Vaqueros (NPSL) winner 8:30 pm

    San Antonio FC (USL) v. Midland-Odessa Sockers FC (NPSL)/Lakeland Tropics (PDL) winner 8:30 pm

    Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC (USL) v. FC Denver (CO)/Azteca FC (CO) winner 9:00 pm

    West Region
    Wednesday, May 16
    Phoenix Rising FC (USL) v. FC Arizona (NPSL)/Sporting AZ FC (AZ) winner 10:00 pm

    Fresno FC (USL) v. Orange County FC (NPSL)/Santa Ana Winds FC (CA) winner 10:00 pm

    Orange County SC (USL) vs. FC Golden State Force (PDL)/L.A. Wolves FC (CA) winner 10:00 pm

    Reno 1868 FC (USL) v. Kitsap Soccer Club (NPSL)/Portland Timbers U23 (PDL) winner 10 or 10:30 pm

    Sacramento Republic FC (USL) vs. CD Aguiluchos USA (NPSL)/San Francisco City FC (PDL) winner 10:30 pm

    Las Vegas Lights FC (USL) vs. FC Tucson (PDL)/La Máquina FC (CA) winner 11:00 pm
     
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