2018+ TEAM JAPAN (Currently: Suzuki, Fujita, Ito, Okazaki) @ Sint-Truidense V.V. (BEL)

Discussion in 'Japanese Abroad' started by Dax, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the other hand Endo and Dan are starting.
     
  2. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Daniel Schmidt was starting but Endo was subbed in round about 70th minute
     
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  3. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Seen the game. Schmidt was probably key today for the win, also didn't go far from saving the PK.
    Endo made a save on the line.
     
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  4. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Schmidt starts, while Suzuki is not part of the squad (not fit again, as one can assume).
     
  5. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Taking his time.
     
  6. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I think he has some issue that we don't know.
    He hasn't played at all in Kashima this season. Last week should have debuted, was taken out at the last minute. This week absent again. No clue wtf is going on really...
     
  7. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    LOL, I don't even..........
    doesn't allow me to read the article unfortunately but that's hilarious.
     
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    Feb 9, 2009
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  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #185 Dax, Aug 20, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2019
    Hm? The article does not suggest anywhere that it is a loan. It does seem a definitive transfer, actually.

    I don't think there's any minimum logic involved, but they have a good fanbase in Japan now for sure. However, my personal impression, given the kind of players they get, was that they actually seek for opportunities where they think there is potential for resale (Tomiyasu) or, in the case of loans, (Kamada) players that they think are currently underused.
    Obviously with all the japanese staff they have, they already know the players much better so they already know if they should "go" or not. They kinda have an advantage, in a sense.
    Who would have bought Tomiyasu from J2 otherwise, after all?
     
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  11. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Everyone left so they arent that many now
     
  12. YakYak

    YakYak Member

    Feb 9, 2009
    You're right, it's likely a full transfer. Sorry I jumped the gun there.
     
  13. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  14. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.truineer.be/nl/sint-truiden/yuma-suzuki-opnieuw-in-the-game
    STVV coach Marc Brys sounds ecstatic that Yuma is back in training, hyping up his goalscoring prowess and claiming that he was clamoring to sign him earlier during last season. But he also indicates that there was indeed a mental health/non-physical aspect to the striker's mysterious absence.
     
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  15. Gorando

    Gorando Member

    Anderlecht
    Belgium
    Mar 12, 2008
    Belgium
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yea he said Suzuki was homesick and he seemed very annoyed by that
     
  16. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Another start for Daniel Schmidt, Suzuki on the bench, while Ito and other new signings are not part of the match-day squad.

    They are facing Eupen, for which Toyokawa is starting as usual.
     
  17. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    There's an interview of CEO Tatsumi Tateishi around in the belgian press, which I try to sum-up.
    - This summer they signed 15 new players;
    - He understands that some fans might be disappointed that most of them are not belgian players;
    - However in reality even those players can be very expensive, so it's hard to find good deals;
    - Tomiyasu's transfer didn't really generate a profit to reinvest as the team had a previous debt of 6 millions that they now closed;
    - DMM.com can invest up to 4 millions per year, but hopefully it can be increased as years go by with plusvalences\injections
    - Wants the team to finish 10th or better in the league table
    - Would like the team to reach Europa League by 2027

    Also for those who can read japanese, I highly recommend this reading:
    https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/contents/4352
    split in several parts, it describes the whole "STVV project" from the beginning.

    As you can imagine, the group was looking for a country where the football level was good but not too high as it would have to serve as "bridge" for japanese players, and at the same time the country in question would have had to have very "relaxed" rules on non-UE players.
     
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  18. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yuma subbed in
     
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  19. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yuma Suzuki came in as a substitute in the 84th minute, he almost assisted one of his teammates.

    This marks Yuma Suzuki’s first match since the Emperor’s cup match against Urawa Reds (5/December/2018), which means this is his first competitive match since almost 9 months.

    Schmidt pulled 2 good saves as he made his second consecutive clean-sheet.
     
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  20. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    This is massive anyway. Tomiyasu's development prevent the club to go bankrupt.
     
  21. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Actually, most clubs operate in debt lol. It's not like STVV would have ceased just because there was some debt. In this case the management preferred to seal it.
     
  22. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Still warming to know someone is interested in making the base more solid rather than just splashing the market.
     
  23. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you have a link to this article?

    Tough to comment on whether this was the right decision. Sounds like the terms of the debt (i.e. interest rate) justified paying it off immediately in the eyes of Tateishi et al., but in any case they were still able to bring in players like Schmidt, Suzuki, Lee, and Ito during this window.
     
  24. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I had to read multiple articles, because each reporter basically focused on some points and went short on some others. I just tried to look for them but I can't really remember, sorry...

    https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20190830...preekt-eindelijk-tiende-plaats-is-het-minimum
    https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nieuws...taag-groeien-qua-budget-en-sportieve-ambities
    https://www.voetbalprimeur.be/nieuw...zijn-ex-club-hij-is-gewoon-onbetaalbaar-.html

    By the way, I don't know why I called him Tatsumi as his name is Takayuki, lol.
     
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  25. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. The first article from HBvL (paywalled) has the bulk of the info, but it was copied to a STVV fan forum: https://www.stvvforum.be/viewtopic.php?t=1607&start=3825
    lots of pressure on Tatsuya and his representatives!
     

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