2018 MLS Week 18 Referee Discussion

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  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    06/29/2018

    Minnesota United v FC Dallas
    TCF Bank Stadium (8PM ET)
    REF: Baldomero Toledo
    AR1: Felisha Mariscal
    AR2: Gianni Facchini
    4TH: Daniel Radford
    VAR: Jon Freemon

    06/30/2018

    Seattle Sounders v Portland Timbers
    CenturyLink Field (4:30PM ET)
    REF: Ismail Elfath
    AR1: Eduardo Mariscal
    AR2: Ian Anderson
    4TH: Sorin Stoica
    VAR: Edvin Jurisevic

    Atlanta United v Orlando City
    Mercedes-Benz Stadium (7PM ET)
    REF: Kevin Stott
    AR1: Cameron Blanchard
    AR2: Adam Garner
    4TH: Fotis Bazakos
    VAR: Dave Gantar

    Montreal Impact v Sporting Kansas City
    Stade Saputo (7PM ET)
    REF: Ted Unkel
    AR1: Jason White
    AR2: Danny Thornberry
    4TH: David Barrie
    VAR: Kevin Terry Jr.

    Columbus Crew v Real Salt Lake
    MAPFRE Stadium (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Drew Fischer
    AR1: Richard Gamache
    AR2: Brian Dunn
    4TH: Marcos DeOliveira
    VAR: Jorge Gonzalez

    New England Revolution v D.C. United
    Gillette Stadium (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Allen Chapman
    AR1: Adam Wienckowski
    AR2: CJ Morgante
    4TH: Alan Kelly
    VAR: Geoff Gamble

    Chicago Fire v New York City FC
    Toyota Park (8PM ET)
    REF: Chris Penso
    AR1: Jeremy Hanson
    AR2: Oscar Mitchell-Carvalho
    4TH: Rubiel Vazquez
    VAR: Caleb Mendez

    Los Angeles FC v Philadelphia Union
    Banc of California Stadium (8PM ET)
    REF: Robert Sibiga
    AR1: Peter Manikowski
    AR2: Michael Kampmeinert
    4TH: Alejandro Mariscal
    VAR: Younes Marrakchi

    San Jose Earthquakes v LA Galaxy
    Stanford Stadium (10PM ET)
    REF: Jose Carlos Rivero
    AR1: Brian Poeschel
    AR2: Jeff Hosking
    4TH: Armando Villarreal
    VAR: Alex Chilowicz

    07/01/2018

    Toronto FC v New York Red Bulls
    BMO Field (4:30PM ET)
    REF: Chico Grajeda
    AR1: Kyle Atkins
    AR2: Jonathan Johnson
    4TH: Silviu Petrescu
    VAR: Jon Freemon

    Vancouver Whitecaps v Colorado Rapids
    BC Place (7PM ET)
    REF: Nima Saghafi
    AR1: Eric Weisbrod
    AR2: TJ Zablocki
    4TH: Daniel Radford
    VAR: Katja Koroleva
     
  2. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Elfath gets the NW derby, Stott gets the always fun Atlanta - Orlando game, and JC Rivero gets the SJ/LAG match.
     
  3. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stott's actually never reffed Atlanta yet so this will (re)complete his league tour. All 26 teams in league history.
     
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  4. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Elfath loves to backpedal and he's really fast at it. I think he covered 20 yards in about 3 seconds.

    Yeah. This game has been that bad.
     
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  5. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
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    The non-YC on the SPA in the 7th (8th?) minute for Kee-Hee was jaw-dropping. Elfath's been watching too many Group Stage WC games...
     
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  6. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think I just saw a caution for entering the referee review area in Toronto - NYRB in the 76th minute.
     
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  7. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, the caution was interesting, and so was the review.

    Parker definitely handled with his right hand while falling, but I don't think that's deliberate. What I think he may have gotten caught doing is handling with his left arm before getting knocked over. I need a better angle, though.
     
  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I caught exactly what it was but only the very first replay showed what happened. It wasn't the hand rolling on the ball when he was falling, it was before that when he reached down and hit the ball with his open hand. The live camera and the very first Fox replay from the ARs side showed it clearly.

    As usual, the MLS website clip shows absoutely nothing.
     
  9. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I thought. I'm watching on mobile, though, so it's difficult for me to see.
     
  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I think that's the difference between a penalty and a free kick coming out.
     
  12. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And as I mentioned, the problem is the Fox coverage focused on the right hand falling on the ball after being pushed leading fans to think that is what the PK is for. It's certainly an example of how being able to see exactly what the ref sees at the World Cup is a major improvement.
     
  13. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, first thing I want to see for video review in MLS: live link up with whatever is being viewed by the referee (or VAR in the case of factual decisions). At least let us see what they're looking at!
     

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