2018 Midterm Election Thread

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Boloni86, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    So the purported trigger reason you hate so many Conservapublicans doesn't apply because a guy who will likely never repent on that issue says a lot of negative things you happen to like. Road to Damascus stories are pretty popular, even if they're opportunistic.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Ok, donald.
     
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  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What? Donald who?
     
  4. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

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    I wish we could still say that.
     
  5. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    BOOM!!!!! Number 40 is close to happen!

     
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  6. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

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    In 20 states, the Democrats gained House seats. In 24 states, the Democrats could have gained House seats and the amount for each party remained the same. In 6 states, the Democrats could not have gained House seats because all the seats are held by Democrats, and all of those seats were kept. The Republicans did not gain House seats in any state. In Minnesota, the Republicans took 2 House seats, but so did the Democrats.

    Here's "A Tale of Two States," which is a political comparison of Ohio and Utah with a surprise at the end:

    1. Ohio voted for the winner of the last 14 presidential elections. The last president who lost Ohio was Kennedy in 1960. Utah voted Republican in the last 13 elections and in 16 of the last 17. The last Democrat to win Utah was Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, when he won the electoral college 486 to 52. 2A.

    2. In 2012, Barack Obama won Ohio by 2.98%, while Mitt Romney won Utah by 48.04%. Obama did about 51% better in Ohio than in Utah.

    3. In 2016, Donald Trump won Ohio by 8.13% and won Utah by 18.08%. It was a smaller than average margin of victory for a Republican in Utah because Evan McMullin got 21.54%. Hilary Clinton did 9.95% better in Ohio than in Utah.

    4. Now here's the surprise. After Republican incumbent Mia Love from Salt Lake City conceded and criticized her opponent and Trump, the Republicans will have three-quarters of the House members from both of those states. Utah had a much greater percentage of House votes for Republicans than Ohio did, but the percent of members elected who are Republican is the same, and Ohio helps the Republicans more because it has 16 districts compared to 4 in Utah. The Republicans have an edge of 8 in Ohio (12 to 4) and 2 in Utah (3 to 1). The Democrats did not gain any seats in Ohio. The Republican edge of 8 in Ohio is their second biggest in any state trailing their edge of 10 in Texas (14 now that will go down to 10 when the members change).

    North Carolina kept 10 Republicans and 3 Democrats in the House. The Democrats had big enough margins of victory that the Democrats got more House votes than the Republicans, and that's with one Republican having the advantage of running unopposed.
     
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  7. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    It is official now.....

    Latest Win Gives Democrats Gain of 40 House Seats
    TJ Cox (D) officially defeated three-term Rep. David Valadao (R-CA), “giving Democrats a gain of seven House seats in California and 40 nationwide — the party’s strongest midterm showing since the Watergate era in the mid-1970s,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

    “Cox clinched his victory more than three weeks after election day, when updated results from Fresno and Kings counties pushed his lead over Valadao to 529 votes. The contest was the country’s last remaining undecided congressional contest.”
     
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  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I guess here is a good place to remind everyone that again, absentee ballot fraud is the easiest way to conduct fraud, and voter ID won't do dick to stop it.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    I’ve written on these boards probably a half dozen times, maybe more, that that’s the tell. The whole push is about disenfranchisement, not voter fraud. In many states, the GOPs specifically took out measures designed to limit absentee fraud.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    The GOP is focussed on one party rule

    Unfortunately the pundit class still treat all this stuff as part of the game
     
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  11. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  12. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

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    What's happening with North Carolina 9? Last I heard about a month ago, things were at a standstill because the state Elections Board had been disbanded and it had not been determined if a new election would be held.

    Anything new to report?
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    I think that the new board will form on the 31st, and we should get more news after that.
     
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  14. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    And Walter Jones is in hospice, so it is likely two elections will need to be held.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Nope.
    He's a very interesting guy. He's more like Justin Amash than a typical GOPer. He was literally the man behind "Freedom Fries," but he came to intensely regret his vote for the war. As an adult convert from Protestantism to Catholicism, he's more guilt-ridden and works-oriented than a typical Southern religious conservative. At some point, as penance, he took on the task of writing personal letters to the families of our fallen soldiers in Iraq. His seat will be taken by a typical GOPer. Net loss.

    However, it does mean that the next NC legislature won't have an incentive to carve out a safe district there, since someone with less than a full term will have little clout. Theoretically, that GOPer might be the one sacrificed to protect the rest. Demographically, though, that part of the state is very rural with a high percentage of black voters. So what's been happening since the 1990 census redraw is that the legislature carves out a black district that is now held by Butterfield, and a white district that has been Jones'. Population growth there is more or less 0% in a state that added a representative in 1990, in 2000, and will again in 2020.

    So the only way that seat is sacrificed in the 2020 redraw is if some of the black areas are combined with northern and northeastern Raleigh exurbs to create a Democratic-friendly district with a high but not decisive minority vote, and Jones' old district gets enough of the other black voters to make it a Democratic-friendly district. But just knowing the demographics, I think neither district would have enough black voters to meet the old VRA standards. I don't know what the new VRA standards are, if any.

    The fantasy in the above paragraph is something that might come of a non-partisan panel of experts, or a judge. I'd be pretty shocked if the legislature did such a thing.
     
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  16. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Thanks for the deep dig on Jones. I only knew him for the recent turnaround on the war.

    But, I could see a world where a hyper-unpopular President facing criminal indictments of himself or his children suppresses turnout of Republicans in a special election in NC and energized Dems walk away, a la Conor Lamb.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Yep....This mf**** is going to jail. Hope Harris gets disqualified as well.

    Lisa Britt, a worker for political operative McCrae Dowless, said during the North Carolina board of elections hearing Monday that Dowless instructed his employees to fill out illegally collected absentee ballots with votes for the Republican candidates.

    The hearing is to investigate alleged election fraud in North Carolina’s 9th district.
    Britt said that most of the ballots had the congressional race and sheriff’s race filled out, as those were the major elections that topped the ballots. She said that Dowless’ cohort would fill in the empty votes for more minor, down-ballot races.
    “Basically what we would do — what I would do — is to submit the vote for whoever was the Republican,” Britt testified.
    Britt said that they would tamper with the ballots at Dowless’ home or office.
     
  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Ha!

    Admit it, libtards! You said there was no such thing as voter fraud. Looks like you was WRONG!!!!!
     
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  20. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Libtards are always rong.
     
  21. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    This libtard was wrong.
     
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  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    That is because, as a believer in Aristotelian rational argument, your first impression is to think they are making an accusation of your side.

    Instead, your first impression should always be that they are projecting their own wrongdoings.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Harris is going to testify today. And just to reiterate my point that there's no chance he didn't know Dowless was doing illegal shit

    "Harris said he sought out and hired political operative Leslie McCrae Dowless because he delivered votes, including for a Republican rival in the 2016 GOP primary. Harris said he discussed with an attorney after that primary whether to challenge Dowless’ incredible results for a GOP rival with mail-in ballots in Bladen County. Dowless’ methods in the 2016 general election were referred to federal prosecutors, who took no action."

    That's from TPM. I'd forgotten that Harris considered a legal challenge. So my 99% just became 100%.
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Its amazing how little attention this is getting?

    The GOP were blatantly trying to steal an election
     
  25. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

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    Jan 7, 2010
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    Maybe it's because the GOP are consistently stealing elections, and no one is actually shocked by this?
     

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