2018 LH USOC qualifying thread (yes 2018)

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  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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  2. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
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    How does this work for the NPSL? Is it the top 2 in each conference on PPG in the regular season that get automatic bids?

    So right now, with just a few games left, that would be:

    South
    Miami Fusion
    FC Wichita

    Midwest
    FC Ann Arbor
    Detroit City

    West
    FC Arizona
    Kitsap SC

    Northeast
    Elm City
    Frederick

    How are the others determined? I don't see how Jacksonville is going to get in.
     
  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    from 2016...
    http://thecup.us/2016/07/18/which-npsl-teams-will-qualify-for-the-2017-us-open-cup/

    NPSL’s qualifying process is somewhat less straightforward
    playoff results matter, and the teams that make the quarterfinals (aka the Regional Finals) are slotted 1-8. Beyond that, Open Cup berths are awarded based on region size, points-per-game, and whether a team from your conference made the quarterfinals.

    A word of advice to NPSL teams: try to make the quarterfinals. If you don’t, whether you make the Open Cup or not will be based on some pretty complex criteria. Thankfully, USSF invited 15 NPSL teams last year, and they’re not usually one to curtail amateur participation.
     
  4. newtex

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    Thank you for the information.
     
  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    well no need to thank me...
    @olujosh, he's really the man to turn to!!!
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    16 NPSL teams across 4 regions left in the playoffs –
    If we win our next match, in addition to moving onto the Northeast Region Championship match on Sat 7/29, Kingston (NY) Stockade FC also AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES FOR THE US OPEN CUP (!!!)
     
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  7. msilverstein47

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  8. msilverstein47

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    Mass United FC‏ @massunitedfc 50m50 minutes ago
    Mass United FC Retweeted Mass United FC
    Mass United FC to compete in 2018 Lamar Hunt US Open Cup!
    Stay tuned as USSF today will announce the matchups for 1st round of competition!
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
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    Huh? Surely they mean the Qualifying tournament.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    who knows what they mean...this is Matt Driver's ASL...
     
  11. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    United German Hungarians, eh?
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
    It is interesting looking at the regions for the qualifying tournament.

    Northeast - 32 teams, 3 rounds would get that down to 4 teams
    Southeast - 22 teams, 2 teams have a first round bye so there would be 12 teams left after that round, that seems to indicate that they are planning on 3 teams moving on
    Mountain - 20 teams, 2 teams have a bye so there would be 11 teams after the first round, again probably headed for 3 teams
    Pacific - 34 teams, 17 left after the first round, I wonder if they are aiming for 5 teams

    4+3+3+5 would be 17 into the tournament proper which would be the same as last year. It seems odd to me to have byes later than putting them all in the first round but they may be looking at geography more than I have on a first glance.
     
  13. mike the mas

    mike the mas New Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    4+3+3+5 =15 . Also I wonder if the boise matchup is supposed to be in the mountain instead. Otherwise, you would you have a bye not in the 1st round, but later? That would be an odd choice to say the least.
     
  14. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
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    Yep, that was a mistake on my part. I originally thought they were going 4+4+4+5 so I got 17 stuck in my head. I changed the breakdown but not the sum.

    It does seem like they are having byes in later rounds. Not normally how it would work but geography definitely affects things.
     
  15. msilverstein47

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  16. mike the mas

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  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

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    Houston
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    That makes more sense. It is interesting that they are reducing the number from 17 last year. Of course, the USSF has no idea how many pro teams they are dealing with for next year with the NASL situation still unfolding.
     
  18. mike the mas

    mike the mas New Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    Yeah ratios of pdl to npsl to lq have been mostly consistent over the last couple of years. It would seem that there will br far fewer amateur teams in the cup proper this year. Although with the new amateur d4 matta is supposed to be working on coming, maybe there is a effort to shift teams to national league? Or maybe the ussf dartboard was used.
     
  19. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
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    I don't know about a big reduction in amateur teams overall. It looks like the PDL and NPSL numbers will be about the same. The local qualifiers are only going down by 3 teams.

    You are going to have to remind me what this means, "new amateur d4 matta is supposed to be working on coming."

    There isn't any D4. The USSF division standards only apply to pro teams. This is a new amateur league? I don't think it will affect the Open Cup until it actually gets started.
     
  20. mike the mas

    mike the mas New Member

    Feb 19, 2017


    He supposed to have a new d4 this fall sometime. Unknown if new usasa run league or standards or what it means exactly.
     
  21. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
    Huh? "Time officially recognize the UPSL as a division 4 league, it meets all requirements"

    There are no requirements for division 4 since the USSF doesn't have a division 4. How can they meet them?

    I don't even think the USSF has standards for amateur leagues. This makes no sense to me.
     
  22. mike the mas

    mike the mas New Member

    Feb 19, 2017
    Right there is not d4 currently. The important part is from motta where he says that usasa plans on making a d4. As I understand it, since ussf delegated the amateur ranks to usasa, the usasa can set the standards for a d4, which as of august they have said that plans on doing so.
     

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