2018 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup: Hell Is Real! Part Deux [Crew/R]

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by chr1st, May 8, 2018.

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How will the Crew fare in the 2018 LHUSOC?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2018.
  1. CHAMPIONS --- Take that, America!

    28.6%
  2. Runners-up --- An investor/operator/chairman's respite.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Semifinals --- Saving our legs for the playoff push.

    7.1%
  4. Quarterfinals --- So many matches, so little time.

    7.1%
  5. Round of 16 --- Would have won if we hosted.

    16.7%
  6. Fourth Round --- Hell Is (too) Real!

    14.3%
  7. Lose at Chicago --- At least we got to visit Hamburgler03...

    26.2%
  1. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the F*re keep winning. :confused::mad::mad:
     
  2. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's almost like, and just hear me out, Paunovic takes the competition seriously and keeps fielding strong squads.
     
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  3. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, that's something.



    The Portland Timbers have filed a protest “in relation to the number of foreign players fielded by Los Angeles Football Club during Wednesday night’s Quarterfinal.”
     
  4. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are the rules different for the USOC than for MLS??
     
  5. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    MLS rules are different for everything including MLS itself.
     
  6. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure. Here's how player eligibility is defined in THE CUP Handbook:
    Here are LAFC's international players, according to MLS: Atuesta, Ciman, Diomande, Horta, Moutinho, Rossi, Ureña, Vela

    Ciman, Vela, Rossi, Ureña, and Diomande were on the roster for the game last night.

    Other potential internationals that made the roster were Blessing (Ghana), Mallace (Scotland), and the Canadian contingent of Kaye and Jakovic.

    Turns out Blessing and Mallace have green cards or citizenship. Kaye and Jakovic seem to be the sticking point.

    From Alicia Rodriguez:
    Interesting.
     
  7. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The plot thickens.


    I'll laugh so much if they get tossed for this.
     
  8. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kaye was playing in Louisville last year and wasn't Jakovic with DC for a while?

    EDIT: Ah, just saw your follow up post about these two guys. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me really. I think the rules should just be re-written, has to be full American citizens, either by birth or naturalization.
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There would be teams who would have a tough time playing then, given the number of players with Green Cards--and you really do not want your rules to be that different from the top domestic league.
     
  10. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something along the lines of 6 US citizens in the starting lineup, rest can be foreign. Bench can be whatever, or maybe needs to be half American. Something like that.

    I understand it might be tough, but what's the point in restricting foreigners in the first place? Either do it or don't. The whole green card thing is just a work around because there aren't enough good Americans. Either drop the rule or embrace it, not this mushy middle bullshit.
     
  11. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #111 kgilbert78, Jul 19, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
    Um, I think you might not be able to restrict a Green Card holder--for employment, I think they get the same legal treatment as a citizen. That's one reason MLS has the rules it has. Except the rules for Canadian players, because there are Canadian team in MLS. MLS is the domestic league in two countries, which one would expect to cause small differences--one of which is a slightly broader eligibility, as both US and Canadian players are domestic in terms of their league. Not sure what Canada Soccer does eligibility wise for their national championship though.

    Mind you, I am not an ICE agent, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
     
  12. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #112 chr1st, Jul 19, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
    More updates from thecup.us:

    EDIT:
    How the hell can LAFC claim Kaye as a homegrown international? He was in the TFC academy.

    DOUBLE EDIT:
    So this is the definition of a homegrown international:
    If I'm understanding this, you can be claimed as a homegrown international even if you weren't a homegrown player from the team that signs you. That is... odd.
     
  13. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figured as much. Just get rid of the rule then honestly.
     
  14. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
  15. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    For what it's worth, Canadian clubs count US players as domestic under Canadian law. US teams count Canadians as internationals (unless they have a green card or are homegrown or Generation Adidas). MLS claims that US law prevents them from treating Canadians differently than Costa Ricans or Jamaicans. The USL doesn't follow MLS policy and treats Canadians as domestic players regardless of which side of the border their club is on.
     
  16. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it's dumb, and to be perfectly honest, disingenuous at best or a blatant lie at worst.
     
  17. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    THE CUP!! Semis. Tonight.

    [​IMG]

    Read. Watch. Or be judged.

    And pray for ET & PKs in the Houston/LAFC match.

    That is all.
     
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  18. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This.
    Pulling for Not Chicago and Not LAFU.
     
  19. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sigh that we didn't even make the bracket.
     
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  20. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I blame Ggggg. (@hang)
     
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  21. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Behold, ye meek and tender mortals, and despair
    For a new champion will be crowned
    AND IT WON'T BE THE CREW

    [​IMG]

    Wednesday night, the Dynamo welcome the Union to the sweltering confines of BBVA Compass Stadium to determine which team will capture its first Open Cup title! Curtin's Men been here before—this is their third CUP Final in five years, all of which have ended in bitter defeat— while Houston has never before tasted the sweet elixir that is THE CUP Final.

    We're in for a real ********ing treat, kiddos. Or not. Dammit, WHY CAN'T IT BE US?!

    Where was I? Oh yes! THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE! So tune in to ESPN2! Enjoy! And curse you, Berhalter!

    It's THE CUP FINAL, ya ingrates! Get in on it!
     
  22. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weather forecast for the area includes possible thunderstorms, could cause a delay.
     
  23. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dang. It would be nice if we could have them after they do 120 mins in the Houston heat, midweek.
     
  24. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm rooting for this game to go to PKs.
     
  25. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not looking like it will, so far.
     

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