2018 FIFA World Cup - Group H : Japan vs Senegal

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Dax, Jun 14, 2018.

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What result do you expect?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2018.
  1. Japan Win

    42.9%
  2. Draw

    50.0%
  3. Senegal Win

    7.1%
  1. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Second match.
     
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  2. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Probably the highest chance of winning a game in Russia.
     
  3. larc-en

    larc-en Member

    Mar 8, 2008
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    also ezpz
     
  4. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Japan 3 (+1)
    Senegal 3 (+1)
    Colombia 0 (-1)
    Poland 0 (-1)

    We will play (again) before our opponents.
    I'm a bit worried that at the end Senegal is the real top seed of this group and that it will be a defeat, a demoralizing one.

    BUT this Poland can be the same of Denmark in 2010 and a draw in the third match will be enough to reach the final16.
     
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  5. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    They didn't look too good against Poland with only a single shot on goal (they scored on that occasion). Yes, it's do or die now.
     
  6. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Didn't look too good and won means that when they look good they uber-win. That's not good news for us.
     
  7. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member

    Oct 3, 2013
    Senegal are dangerous as hell. I will be satisfied with a draw. Nishino need to find a way to deal with their physicality and pace. Japan will easily concede a few goals in the first half if they played like they did against Colombia.
     
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  8. AtsushiYanagishower

    Arsenal
    Japan
    May 29, 2018
    Crucial for us to get at least a point from this game. This group was very difficult to predict - even before these unexpected results from the first two games.
     
  9. yanagibashi

    yanagibashi Member

    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Japan
    Jan 3, 2018
    interesting to see if players are rotated. we only have four days to prepare for (potentially must win) game against poland.

    guys like haraguchi in particular put in a heavy shift defensively. i’m worried if nishino is planning to play usami at some stage in the next two games.
     
  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Not really, watch the highlights of the match. The second goal is hilarious. Majster has a point, the result is a bit random, or rather, more Poland disapponinting in attack. I didn't see the match but I don't understand how Milik and Lewandowski can be on the pitch at the same time honestly
     
  11. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I watched it.

    Senegal looked dangerous whenever they attacked because of their superior individual skills.

    Poland was better in terms of team organisation, they had more ball position and shots, but they played a predictable football with long passes and crosses, which made it easy to Senegal to defend.

    In the other hand, it was clear that Poland is not familiar with non-European playstyles, such as African, Latin America and Asian.
    In Pre-WC friendlies they played 5 games at home (they drew against Chile and Uruguay, defeated South Korea by 1 goal margin, and lost against Nigeria and Mexico -they won their 6th and final Pre-WC match against Lithuania, but it wasn't a big deal-). One wonders what the results would look like if the matches were played at neutral venues with the opponents don't have to travel cross-continents to play friendlies during the league season.

    As for playing Lewandowski and Mililk together, Milik was playing under the top, but it was a complete waste to play him in such a position.

    I think Poland's match is the most winnable for Japan, if they managed to neutralize Lewandowaski and deal very well with Poland's aerial crosses and shots from distance.

    As you can see their playstyle is quite predictable and any potent team can know where the danger comes from, unlike teams with above-average individual skills like Colombia and Senegal which are quite unpredictable.
     
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  12. yanagibashi

    yanagibashi Member

    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Japan
    Jan 3, 2018
    yeah poland looked a well drilled side in the first half but they had an obvious plan a and nothing else whatsoever.

    they looked frustrated, lethargic. lewandowski spent more time complaining to everyone. blaszcykowski went off injured.

    maybe with the exception of mane, senegal looked like a handy rugby team.
     
  13. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Well, in the game against Columbia entire team ran 101 km which is one of the lowest during this WC. So surely there are reserves in the team in this aspect.
     
  14. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    I didn't miss the time when Japan had one of the highest kms and still no score goal/point.
    I hope we continue make opponents meaninglessly run for 90 minutes while scoring on pk/ck, another factor never seen before in the past.

    A question to @Samurai Warrior: Senegal gk was fine? Or did he act strangly as in SK friendly?
     
  15. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #15 Samurai Warrior, Jun 20, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
    He pulled at least a couple of great saves, with one of them from Lewandowski's curling free-kick, he was generally good.

    By the way, Japan ran more than Colombia in the last game. See the post below.
     
  16. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Japan ran more than Colombia, they ran 63 miles (101km) while Colombia ran 58 miles (93km) according to statistics from Fox Sports.
     
  17. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Will be a thriller again. Senegal is a strong physical team. And they have Mane.
     
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  18. SandyRavage

    SandyRavage Member

    Jan 14, 2014
    Scotland
    Club:
    Dundee United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I don't like looking at how good or bad they were in the last game. Every game is different and they are a physical, athletic team which Japan sometimes struggle against. That said they aren't the most organised team and chase the ball at times so I think with Japan's neat and tidy play they can cut them open. IdI like to see more urgency from Japan and i think they can do it!
     
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  19. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well you do have to take into account that Japan had one more player for basically the entire game. So they were even on distance run per outfield player, although I suspect it was very skewed toward the wide players - Haraguchi in particular was completely gassed.
     
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  20. yanagibashi

    yanagibashi Member

    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Japan
    Jan 3, 2018
    haraguchi has been terribly average but what an engine. ran around like a mad dog for ninety minutes.
     
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  21. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He choosed the right game to be good. Osako also. But thats the problem with those two. Now we expect the same against Senegal. It will probably not happen. I hope so but.
     
  22. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Give the guys some credits and trust in them.
    Imo Osako can be the "secret weapon" I was joking about, if he enter in a state of grace for the whole competition he should be our MVP of the tournament as Honda in 2010.
    Same for Kagawa and Inui, I hope for a combo-goal with them as protagonist against Senegal. They had the skills to do that.
    Haraguchi seems our hardwork guy. Maybe he hold himself in the friendlies to restore his forces for the real challenge.
     
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  23. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    He did not hold himself in the friendlies.
    He was working hard for every NT match he is involved in, surging foreward over the wing and tracking back to support the defence.
    His only problem is his poor finishing, which we can make up with better finishers beside him.
     
  24. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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