2018 CL/2019 CCL Qualifiers, transition [R]

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  1. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    Hi everyone,

    With CONCACAF's club championship now partitioned into two tournaments, every federation has to face the question of how much of a gap they want to permit between their teams qualifying for the continental stage and said teams actually playing there. While there have been no indications of calendar adjustment in Mexico or Central America, Canada already squared things away with Toronto FC getting only one CCL ticket for winning both the 2016 and 2017 Voyageurs' Cups. For its part, the US decided to split its four berths in the 2019 CCL among two seasons, with the MLS Cup and US Open Cup winners for 2017 and 2018 getting the nod at the expense of the Supporters' Shield and "MLS opposite conference regular season" winners.

    The latter has us starting this thread now, since the semifinals of the 2017 US Open Cup are set (times U.S. Eastern, home team first).

    Wednesday, August 9:

    Sporting Kansas City vs. San Jose Earthquakes, 8:30 p.m.

    Tuesday, August 15:

    FC Cincinnati vs. New York Red Bulls, 8:00 p.m.

    On September 20, the winner of the second semifinal will either travel to KC or host San Jose with the first 2019 CONCACAF Champions League berth on the line.

    As for the 2018 CONCACAF League, technically the first qualifier will be the Nicaraguan Apertura winner, since they have no option of directly reaching the CCL; the Belizean Opening Season winner will still have to top the full-year table to guarantee continental play, while the winners in the rest of the Central American leagues will have their respective country's CCL berth in sight.
     
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  2. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    Worth noting that Nicaragua has changed its format this year, adopting Honduras's setup: regular season --> 3 v. 6 and 4 v. 5 play-in round --> winners join the 1st and 2nd place teams from the regular season in the semifinals.
     
  3. Paul Calixte

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    The first berth in the 2019 CONCACAF Champions League will be decided on September 20 at 9:00 p.m. (US Eastern), when Sporting Kansas City host the New York Red Bulls in the US Open Cup final. Tough luck, Cincinnati, but all good things must come to an end :(
     
  4. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    Quick reminder to all that the above will take place this upcoming Wednesday, to be shown on ESPN2 in the US.
     
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  5. EvanJ

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    I don't remember a team I root for winning a tournament for the first time. The Red Bulls could do that.
     
  6. IASocFan

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    I'll be there in my Sporting Blue rooting for the Home Team! :)
     
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  7. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    And we have our first team in!

    The Red Bulls nearly pulled themselves out of the hole with a late flurry, but could only halve the deficit in injury time as Sporting Kansas City brought home their fourth US Open Cup 2-1 to guarantee their return to the continental stage.

    2019 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
     
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  8. jared9999

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    Ouch Evan :D
     
  9. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    The MLS regular season wraps up on Sunday (all games at 4:00 p.m., US Eastern) - and while the main story will be San Jose, FC Dallas and RSL in a three-horse race for that last playoff berth, there are also CCL implications at play.

    "But why, if the Supporters' Shield doesn't matter this time (and Toronto already won it)?"

    That's the point: the question to be resolved on Sunday is who will be in line to get the hand-me-down berth should Toronto FC (or Vancouver or Sporting KC, for that matter) win the 2017 MLS Cup Final. In a complete departure from the recent trend, not a single Western Conference team is in the conversation: New York City FC, the endangered Columbus Crew, the Chicago Fire and Atlanta United are the last contenders for second place in the full-year table.

    The first two play each other; and with NYCFC currently holding that second place in the table, all they have to do is win to seal the deal. Atlanta will host Toronto FC, while Chicago head down to Houston. The equation for each, as well as the Crew, is: win and hope that the contenders ahead of them all fail to do the same.

    In the particular scenario of ATL winning and NYCFC tying, they would be even on points and wins, so Atlanta would jump the Pigeons on GD. And if Columbus win and Chicago tie (presuming Atlanta also fail to win), Columbus would jump the Fire on wins.
     
  10. newtex

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    This was posted last month on MLSsoccer.com

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017...hampions-league-qualifiers-are-determined-mls

     
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    Orlando City SC
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    One step closer to learning the first 2018 CONCACAF League participant...

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. EvanJ

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  15. Paul Calixte

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  16. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    And another step closer...

    [​IMG]

    Surprising to see a Nicaraguan final with Estelí nowhere in sight...not so much to see Diriangén miss out :p
     
  17. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    Also worth noting that the semifinals are set in Panama (home team for second leg listed first):

    Tauro vs Chorrillo FC
    Plaza Amador vs. Árabe Unido
     
  18. Paul Calixte

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